Apple x86 is dead - are there plans for Factorio ARM64?

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Apple x86 is dead - are there plans for Factorio ARM64?

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As probably already known to many people, Apple decided to kill x86 Intel Apple products, very probably including their Mac Pro line, and switch to homemade ARM64 chips.

This will kill *all* of their x86 programs in quite a very short timeframe and they will continue to strongly enforce their Apple Store.

Are there plans to create an ARM version of Factorio?


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Re: Apple x86 is dead - are there plans for Factorio ARM64?

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This is already discussed here : viewtopic.php?p=499848#p499848 (within the "I want Factorio on my Ipad" thread).
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Koub wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:43 pm
This is already discussed here : viewtopic.php?p=499848#p499848 (within the "I want Factorio on my Ipad" thread).
Oh, I missed that, thanks!

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Re: Apple x86 is dead - are there plans for Factorio ARM64?

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I think ARM based Mac deserves seprarate thread.

It is not good time for us to evaluate supporting another arch at the moment, as we are preparing for 1.0 release. There is also a question of them going full Apple Silicon or still using AMD GPUs. So I would say don't buy new Mac just yet (or at least don't get rid of your old one) if you want to play Factorio on it.

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Re: Apple x86 is dead - are there plans for Factorio ARM64?

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dee- wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:40 pm
This will kill *all* of their x86 programs in quite a very short timeframe...
Are you saying the Macs that exist out there today are all going to self-destruct? :shock:

(OK, it's Apple, I suppose I wouldn't put it past them...)

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Re: Apple x86 is dead - are there plans for Factorio ARM64?

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Kyralessa wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:43 am
dee- wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:40 pm
This will kill *all* of their x86 programs in quite a very short timeframe...
Are you saying the Macs that exist out there today are all going to self-destruct? :shock:
No, but Apple Culture demands you upgrade when they tell you to. ;)
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Re: Apple x86 is dead - are there plans for Factorio ARM64?

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As far as Macs transitioning to new silicon and MacOS is concerned:
- There will be a 2 year transition period between Intel-based Macs back to their own System-On-a-Chip (SOC). That's just the beginning.
- They still have Intel-based products in the pipeline that will be announced later this year or next year.
- This means they're going to be supporting Intel for at least several years beyond that.
- Which means Macs with the new processors will be encouraged to use Rosetta (2) to enable running of MacOS Intel-based games and applications.

ref: June 2020 WWDC Keynote

- So that means Factorio can continue to release Mac versions the same as they do today.

edit: Factorio was not mentioned in the Keynote.

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I'm not sure about Apple's ARM chip and Rosetta and macOS, but right now the headless server binary for x86-64 is able to run (30 UPS on a 60 SPM factory) on Linux on a Raspberry Pi 4 with qemu user mode emulation.

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Hey guys! I recently got a new M1 mac, and I have to say it's pretty darn awesome. I didn't get it for playing "games", but I figured maaaaybe Factorio would work on it. and... well... it does! However, the graphics performance isn't keeping up.
Things I've tried that helps: Not running the game in full screen and disabling full color depth.

This has been my favorite game for many years now, and pretty much the only game I play if I have free time.
I'm almost sure if the devs can optimize for M1 mac and maybe the Metal graphics API, this thing will be a Factorio monster.

Thank you! Developers you are awesome and keep up the good work!

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