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I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:59 am
by db48x
Recaptcha is the worst piece of software in the world. I spent at least 5 minutes clicking on bicycles and busses and mountains and other crap, waiting 5 to 10 seconds for each new image to fade into view, and finally got a green checkbox. And then the login failed anyway and it said that I hadn't solved the captcha. The images are tiny and hard to see, and they've started adding noise and reducing the contrast in order to make them harder to identify.

No, I won't do that ever again. I can feel my blood boiling just thinking about it. I don't care why you think you need it, or what metrics you based your decision on; it's terrible. Please get rid of it so that I can download Factorio again.

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 6:25 pm
by Jap2.0
Would something from this thread work?

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:26 am
by db48x
If I had an API token then I could use the new API endpoint, but I would have to log in to factorio.com to create a token. Catch-22.

If they're worried about someone using the login form to brute-force a user's password (and that's a valid concern), the right solution is exponential backoff. After each password failure just wait longer and longer before returning a reply, and eventually you just stop answering those requests. Recaptcha was probably an easy fix, but not a good one for users or ultimately for security. Running third-party javascript in your page is always a bad idea, even if the third party once promised not to be evil.

In the short term my problem is solved, because I found a version of Factorio 0.12.30 and it was eventually able to update itself. It had to download > 4GB of updates though, and could only do so at a 20th of my full download speed, so that took all day. I have to say that the update process is really poorly built, but that's a separate bug report.

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:49 am
by HanziQ
If you are able to update, you should have your token in the player-data.json file in https://wiki.factorio.com/Application_directory

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:51 pm
by db48x
HanziQ wrote:
Mon Oct 01, 2018 7:49 am
If you are able to update, you should have your token in the player-data.json file in https://wiki.factorio.com/Application_directory
That's nice. Still doesn't change the fact that I cannot log in to factorio.com.

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:33 am
by Jap2.0
HaziQ/Sanqui: would something like Google's No CAPTCHA work?

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:08 am
by db48x
Jap2.0 wrote:
Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:33 am
HaziQ/Sanqui: would something like Google's No CAPTCHA work?
That's simply the latest version of recaptcha; it's the problem.

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:32 am
by eradicator
Btw, i can attest to the crappyness of recaptcha too. (Luckily i don't need it for factorio due to stored cookies/session id). Just yesterday it forced me to do like 10 sets of 5 captchas each because it constantly lost connection after the fifth one. And well...the fact that it demands more than one captcha at all, and has these really annoying ones where it constantly (and extremely slowly) fades in new pictures all the time also makes it one of the worst captcha "experiences" i know. It also seems to use IP lists to punish people who use VPNs. So it probably only works "well" for people with a good fast connection who don't look "suspicious" and thus only have to solve one captcha.

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:31 am
by Jap2.0
Yeah, I agree that captchas can suck; sometimes I get through in a matter of seconds and sometimes I'm there clicking for minutes.
Unfortunately I don't see any alternatives.

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:30 am
by Koub

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:32 pm
by eradicator
Well, well. It looks like my cookies have expired. And now i can join the club of the unhappy "locked out of the mod portal" customers. I even tried to disable my adblocking addons (which is obviously unacceptable), but all i get is "please solve the captcha" again and again. *sigh*. One more entry on the list of sites i can only use in a vm'ed addon-free browser.

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:52 pm
by Klonan
eradicator wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:32 pm
Well, well. It looks like my cookies have expired. And now i can join the club of the unhappy "locked out of the mod portal" customers. I even tried to disable my adblocking addons (which is obviously unacceptable), but all i get is "please solve the captcha" again and again. *sigh*. One more entry on the list of sites i can only use in a vm'ed addon-free browser.
The captcha only appears after 3 failed on the main website, I will put it on a card to do the same for the mod portal

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:03 pm
by eradicator
Klonan wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:52 pm
eradicator wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:32 pm
Well, well. It looks like my cookies have expired. And now i can join the club of the unhappy "locked out of the mod portal" customers. I even tried to disable my adblocking addons (which is obviously unacceptable), but all i get is "please solve the captcha" again and again. *sigh*. One more entry on the list of sites i can only use in a vm'ed addon-free browser.
The captcha only appears after 3 failed on the main website, I will put it on a card to do the same for the mod portal
That would be much appreciated. Logging into the main site works fine here.

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:20 am
by Sanqui
This should be fixed now, the mod portal gives you three attempts before presenting a CAPTCHA.

Re: I cannot log in to factorio.com due to recaptcha

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:38 am
by eradicator
Works fine for me now. Thanks for the fix :).