Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by Philip017 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:30 pm

some people cant just be happy with the glowing pipes they need more immersion into the colors and brightness, but i think it looks great, so keep up the good work!

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by Mooncat » Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:57 pm

Oh god, looks like the pipes are going to melt you down.

Just my personal opinion: make the glow only happens on a small part of the pipe, like a heat indicator, a small lamp (like rail signal), or a small part of the pipe covered under glass (like the window of fluid pipe), rather than glowing the whole pipe.
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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by ownlyme » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:00 pm

Philip017 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:30 pm
some people cant just be happy with the glowing pipes they need more immersion into the colors and brightness, but i think it looks great, so keep up the good work!
im the guy who brought you immersive laser beam glow.
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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by stribika » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:01 pm

I really like the glowing pipes. The color could also change: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wien%27s_displacement_law

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by kateract » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:13 pm

ownlyme wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:20 pm
i don't think they'll add heat pipe damage, but it could be possible with a mod utilizing landmines maybe.. (thanks to conn11 for the idea)
I was thinking it would be closer to worm spit damage myself. Maybe that would be easier?

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by HornetSV » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:16 pm

Just WOW!!!!!

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by gorothdablade » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:23 pm

Philip017 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:30 pm
some people cant just be happy with the glowing pipes they need more immersion into the colors and brightness, but i think it looks great, so keep up the good work!
don't worry, I give it a month before there is a mod allowing complete rbg control over the heat pipe glow color... and a week before the community moves on to another complaint

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by ownlyme » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:29 pm

gorothdablade wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:23 pm
Philip017 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:30 pm
some people cant just be happy with the glowing pipes they need more immersion into the colors and brightness, but i think it looks great, so keep up the good work!
don't worry, I give it a month before there is a mod allowing complete rbg control over the heat pipe glow color... and a week before the community moves on to another complaint
the glow is probably just a sprite layer which might make it difficult to create a gradient from yellow to red.
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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by LightspeedLazer » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:36 pm

FINALLY I'm able to use heat pipes as my main light source! :D
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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by theolderbeholder » Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:51 pm

gorothdablade wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:23 pm
Philip017 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:30 pm
some people cant just be happy with the glowing pipes they need more immersion into the colors and brightness, but i think it looks great, so keep up the good work!
don't worry, I give it a month before there is a mod allowing complete rbg control over the heat pipe glow color...
...controllable via circuit network, moving the factory into the age of disco.

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by gorothdablade » Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:12 pm

theolderbeholder wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:51 pm
gorothdablade wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:23 pm
Philip017 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:30 pm
some people cant just be happy with the glowing pipes they need more immersion into the colors and brightness, but i think it looks great, so keep up the good work!
don't worry, I give it a month before there is a mod allowing complete rbg control over the heat pipe glow color...
...controllable via circuit network, moving the factory into the age of disco.
OOHH Idea, an item that you can place onto ANY building that adds a light effect to that building, eventually allowing circuit controlled effect to that lighting... maybe increasing electricity consumption

If we are going to do a disco with heat pipes, I don't see why belts can't get in on it

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by 5thHorseman » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:26 pm

kateract wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:03 pm
Am I the only one that thinks that since the pipes are glowing red hot, that maybe they should cause a small bit of damage to the player if they are walked on?
Please, no. It's bad enough we can't walk over pipes.

If this is added the second mod I'll install after Squeak Through will be Heatless Heat Pipes.
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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by BattleFluffy » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:29 pm

I absolutely LOVE the new heat pipes! They look simply awesome. I'm in love <3

Amazing job! :D

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by Cadde » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:36 pm

Those heat pipes look nice and all but it just reminds me of how disappointed i am in the nuclear reactor system.
I was hoping for a more design oriented system where you had to find a balance between an efficient reactor and a safe reactor. Where all of Factorio comes together to make or break your base (or a significant part of it) as you fine tune everything and have safety circuits in place for when the reactor could literally melt down, produce a large volume of hydrogen gas and blow it's cover spreading radioactive waste all over the place...

But yeah, nice pipes.

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by zebediah49 » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:58 pm

ownlyme wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:29 pm
gorothdablade wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:23 pm
Philip017 wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:30 pm
some people cant just be happy with the glowing pipes they need more immersion into the colors and brightness, but i think it looks great, so keep up the good work!
don't worry, I give it a month before there is a mod allowing complete rbg control over the heat pipe glow color... and a week before the community moves on to another complaint
the glow is probably just a sprite layer which might make it difficult to create a gradient from yellow to red.
From a technical standpoint, presumably you could use a pair of sprite layers (red and green), and mix them to produce anything in the red-yellow spectrum. That's not particularly efficient, and likely not justified for the importance of the effect here though.

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Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:36 pm
Those heat pipes look nice and all but it just reminds me of how disappointed i am in the nuclear reactor system.
I was hoping for a more design oriented system where you had to find a balance between an efficient reactor and a safe reactor. Where all of Factorio comes together to make or break your base (or a significant part of it) as you fine tune everything and have safety circuits in place for when the reactor could literally melt down, produce a large volume of hydrogen gas and blow it's cover spreading radioactive waste all over the place...

But yeah, nice pipes.
IMO Factorio should be and stay intrinsically safe. You can build things that are stupid or inefficient, but you should be able to fix and improve them -- a reactor that can destroy itself and others breaks that.

Instead, the balance should be similar to everything else -- fuel efficiency vs. physical size vs. complexity. I would like to see it that you can make an inefficient simple and small reactor, or you can make a large simple efficient one, or a small(ish) complex efficient one. Really though I would like to see some kind of breeder arrangement rather than Kovarex enrichment -- that mechanic just feels like an unrealistic gamey patch for the imposed 99% refinement rate nod to realism. It's better than nothing, but just barely.

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by Shingen » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:06 pm

my biggest issue with this whole thing is that...
https://cdn.factorio.com/assets/img/blo ... ipes-1.png
this image is actually a WEBP, not PNG :|
stop saving files with wrong extensions, reeeeeeeeeeeee

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Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:36 pm
Those heat pipes look nice and all but it just reminds me of how disappointed i am in the nuclear reactor system.
I was hoping for a more design oriented system where you had to find a balance between an efficient reactor and a safe reactor. Where all of Factorio comes together to make or break your base (or a significant part of it) as you fine tune everything and have safety circuits in place for when the reactor could literally melt down, produce a large volume of hydrogen gas and blow it's cover spreading radioactive waste all over the place...

But yeah, nice pipes.
On one hand, it may be a cool challenge... in a mod, or something. But for a normal gameplay it would be pretty obnoxious for people making their first steps in the nuclear energy field. And hardly realistic.
Also it would incentivize getting safe and tested nuclear power plant blueprints from other players that Wube seem to want to avoid.

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by Greenicegod » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:20 pm

Really awesome addition to the reactor!
I just finished building one in my .17 playthrough, so it's cool to think about.
One thing that could be improved:
In the real world hotter things not only glow brighter, but a different colour. It goes from black to deep red to cherry to orange (look up "black body spectrum" for specifics).

Anyway, I think it would add a lot to have to colour change with the temperature...

Thanks!

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by kateract » Fri Aug 30, 2019 10:28 pm

5thHorseman wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:26 pm
kateract wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:03 pm
Am I the only one that thinks that since the pipes are glowing red hot, that maybe they should cause a small bit of damage to the player if they are walked on?
Please, no. It's bad enough we can't walk over pipes.

If this is added the second mod I'll install after Squeak Through will be Heatless Heat Pipes.
I don't think it'd have to be enough damage to kill you (especially if you're in power armor, maybe with another 1x1 module like belt immunity called heat immunity?) but just something to give some flavor to that heat. It's not like pipes that you can't walk through, may have all the potential to kill you that a train would at worst. Are you going to get a Trainless Train Track mod?

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by smokahontas » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:39 am

I love it as always! ignore the people complaining about WoW, everybody slacks off at work sometimes. also the heat pipes are great but should probably not darken as much as they should shift color like metal really does, and not be as bright.

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Re: Friday Facts #310 - Glowing Heat pipes

Post by ownlyme » Sat Aug 31, 2019 2:37 am

Cadde wrote:
Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:36 pm
Those heat pipes look nice and all but it just reminds me of how disappointed i am in the nuclear reactor system.
I was hoping for a more design oriented system where you had to find a balance between an efficient reactor and a safe reactor. Where all of Factorio comes together to make or break your base (or a significant part of it) as you fine tune everything and have safety circuits in place for when the reactor could literally melt down, produce a large volume of hydrogen gas and blow it's cover spreading radioactive waste all over the place...

But yeah, nice pipes.
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