nafira wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 4:58 pm
@Koub : is it possible to have that kind of pool instead of posting in an everlasting thread. It has deviated too much already and it's beginning to be pointless.
I'm okay with polls, but my personal opinion is that a poll (or even the discussions that keep on going on the subject currently) will have no effect whatsoever, and are just people chatting.
It's a totally personal opinion, because my reading of the whole story is the following :
1) The devs get (whatever it came from) the feeling that at some point the game is not as it should ...
2) ... but the dev team is split on how to fix things
3) they try to come up with a "less worse" solution, and expose it on an FFF. Two possible outcomes : Either the changes are acclaimed overall, and they can be satisfied with their decision, or people dislike the planned change, and voice their opinion on the question
4) Bad luck, devs, shitstorm wreaks havoc on the forum, the howling crowd calls for blood, and a huge quantity of feedback, additional thoughts, suggestions are made
5) The devs acknowledge there might be better solutions than what they first came with.
6) They iterate their internal discussions with the massive additional input, discard the suggestions that don't suit them, and tweak their initial idea to a better consensus between the devs.
7) Second FFF + a mod to let people test the coming change
8) Still a lot of displeased people, but nothing new (or not much) is posted that can convince the devs they head in the wrong direction.
9) 0.17.60 is out. The part of the community that was the more hostile to the change is still hostile and voices it continuously, but during the last period, there were more people saying they either approved the changes (totally or partially) or didn't care much.
We're here. Almost everything that has happened on the subject until now is theoric. What the devs need is experimental data. They need people to play, to get used to the novelty, feedback from newbies, ... In a few weeks/months, depending on what overall feedback they'll have collected, either they'll be comforted in their choice, or they will come to the conclusion that it's still suboptimal/worse, and they have to get back to the drawing table. And just in case people think that the devs don't listen to feedback, if time proves they were wrong on a decision, they will admit it and revert the problematic change (yes, rail planning, you're the one I'm talking about).
To be honest, past the first few days, most of the feedback has been emotional escalation, and endless repetition of the same suggestions/arguments. Unless something radically new gets added in the debate, there is no reason for the devs to change their minds.
So I'd say to all here : play the game, if you're viscerally opposed to the change and never ever want to play with this new path, mod it or revert to 0.17.59 in the hope something new gets the debate tilt towards "the devs were wrong after all". Or give things a try with a blank mind, enjoy your time on the game, I'm sure that most of you will have forgotten the issue within a few months.