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psihius wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 05, 2018 5:25 pm

Someone send them a bag of non-dick shaped candy!

Tomik wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:58 am

There is a very easy solution: Make special Loading and Unloading structures specifically for train wagons (like in Real Life) that can only use Belt Loader/Unloader to get stuff in or out of wagons and disable the ability of inserters to pull things directly out of wagons.

Done!

Trebor wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:04 pm

Fuel should be treated like any other item in the blueprint. However much is in the engine is the amount blueprinted. If the blueprint was created with coal and you want rocket fuel you use the upgrade planner.

POPISowyNumer wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:17 pm

Tomik wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:58 am

There is a very easy solution: Make special Loading and Unloading structures specifically for train wagons (like in Real Life) that can only use Belt Loader/Unloader to get stuff in or out of wagons and disable the ability of inserters to pull things directly out of wagons.

Done!

Yeah, but this requires them to not only make two classes of inventory entities, but also two new structures (hopper and belt-loader).
If they won't do that, the cargo wagons will make belt based busses inferior, and should inserters prove more ups friendly than belts, then also completely obsolete.

And then some devs have the gall to call bots op.
No wonder, if you gimp the belts so hard...

bobucles wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:28 pm

But will all vehicles be allowed in blueprints? Asking for a tank chest build.

mexmer wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:31 am

bobucles wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:28 pm

But will all vehicles be allowed in blueprints? Asking for a tank chest build.

you want to have tank imprinted on your chest?

is not that for t-shirt section?

bobucles wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:28 pm

But will all vehicles be allowed in blueprints? Asking for a tank chest build.

xng wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:25 am

Just a few weeks left now until it has been 1 year since 0.16 was released. I think the devs tend to forget this as time passes a lot more quickly when playing around and having fun with experimental future features instead. For customers that wait on the other hand these years of postponing releases adds up, and seeing each friday how the devs just keep playing around trying stuff out instead of finishing and releasing the already open projects makes it feel like a huge disappointment.

The techdemos you work on instead of finishing the game looks cool though, and I'm happy that you at least have fun in the office. You already got payed so I guess there are nothing else you need to do for your customers and backers.

Oktokolo wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:21 am

bobucles wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:28 pm

But will all vehicles be allowed in blueprints? Asking for a tank chest build.

I would also like the blueprinting mechanic to, besides locomotives and cargo/tank wagons, also support cars, tanks, compilatrons and their upgraded version, spidertrons, too.

But where do you need tanks, where cargo wagons do not cut it?
I use cargo-wagon-based buffers, belt balancers and warehouses when playing without Merging Chests and Warehousing. In my experience, it is all about the amount of Inserters/loaders you can have loaing/unloading the container - so larger containers are better than smaller ones.

Lubricus wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:33 pm

When you make super UPS optimized factories and use assemblers with direct insertions between trains. Inserters and assemblers have all odd numbered width and rails can only bee and even amount of tiles between them, so you may need to use cars/tanks that have an even numbered width.

eradicator wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:56 pm

Lubricus wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:33 pm

When you make super UPS optimized factories and use assemblers with direct insertions between trains. Inserters and assemblers have all odd numbered width and rails can only bee and even amount of tiles between them, so you may need to use cars/tanks that have an even numbered width.

If you use car/tank chests in a "super UPS optimized factory" then you've never measured the UPS impact of cars/tanks (hint: they're way more expensive than chests).

+1 for cars in blueprints anyway though

Lubricus wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:10 pm

eradicator wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:56 pm

Lubricus wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:33 pm

When you make super UPS optimized factories and use assemblers with direct insertions between trains. Inserters and assemblers have all odd numbered width and rails can only bee and even amount of tiles between them, so you may need to use cars/tanks that have an even numbered width.

If you use car/tank chests in a "super UPS optimized factory" then you've never measured the UPS impact of cars/tanks (hint: they're way more expensive than chests).

+1 for cars in blueprints anyway though ;)

https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comme ... confidence
That is hard to beat and uses cars

With some other improvements in fluid handling and replacing most car buffers with inserters and chests, [...]

I did avoid cars wherever possible, since inserters and chests are better optimized

xng wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:25 am

Just a few weeks left now until it has been 1 year since 0.16 was released. I think the devs tend to forget this as time passes a lot more quickly when playing around and having fun with experimental future features instead. For customers that wait on the other hand these years of postponing releases adds up, and seeing each friday how the devs just keep playing around trying stuff out instead of finishing and releasing the already open projects makes it feel like a huge disappointment.
The techdemos you work on instead of finishing the game looks cool though, and I'm happy that you at least have fun in the office. You already got payed so I guess there are nothing else you need to do for your customers and backers.

Lubricus wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:33 pm

When you make super UPS optimized factories and use assemblers with direct insertions between trains. Inserters and assemblers have all odd numbered width and rails can only bee and even amount of tiles between them, so you may need to use cars/tanks that have an even numbered width.