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luc wrote:Devs: you might also be interested to know that in some languages, currency is pluralized differently:

EN zero euros, one euro, two euros... (normal pluralization rules)
FR zéro euro, un euro, deux euros... (normal pluralization rules)
NL nul euro, een euro, twee euro... (always singular)
DE null euro, ein euro, zwei euro... (always singular)

There is currently no currency in the base game, but mods and the website might have it.

• gettext assumes, that you use English as your base "C" language. That might usually be fine, but also might not. (This seems to be more or less hard-coded, since you cannot declare non-English plural forms for base language: msgid="%d minute", msgid_plural="%d minutes" and that's it.)
• gettext (seemingly) cannot support strings that have multiple plurals within them, thus making "5 minutes, 1 second" a difficult string to implement. It can be worked around by defining the plurals separately, but makes the containing string a mess "%1$s, %2$s". (What if "seconds" should actually be before minutes? What needs to be changed? That isn't clear from the containing string.)

steinio wrote:You are the einzigste who knows how to pluralise Euro in German.

Sanqui wrote:

thecatlover1996 wrote:Yay for not having to zoom in anymore to read the FFF on my phone! Next up: mobile-ready forum?

I'll see what I can do

OvermindDL1 wrote:

and in future we would like to create Vulkan and Metal backends

Oh there is no point in making a metal backend anymore, the authors of Vulkan (Khronos) made a metal/vulkan conversion library that let's vulkan run on metal (interestingly benchmarks show it to be faster than the equivalently written metal code due to optimizations the interface performs)

OvermindDL1 wrote:

melind wrote:And here I thought localization of this sort of thing would have been standardized and wrapped into packages like timezones have been.

If you need, I'm fine with continuing to believe everyone speaks Czech or English. It's a fair assumption.

There are, the gettext style took over (there is a program gettext that this style came from but it is GPL, however it's been remade a hundred times at this point with better licenses, to various amounts of compliance).

AFD wrote:When the 0.17 will be out?

AFD wrote:When the 0.17 will be out?

gettext

Vulkan

steinio wrote:

luc wrote:Devs: you might also be interested to know that in some languages, currency is pluralized differently:

EN zero euros, one euro, two euros... (normal pluralization rules)
FR zéro euro, un euro, deux euros... (normal pluralization rules)
NL nul euro, een euro, twee euro... (always singular)
DE null euro, ein euro, zwei euro... (always singular)

There is currently no currency in the base game, but mods and the website might have it.

You are the einzigste who knows how to pluralise Euro in German.

ratchetfreak wrote:

OvermindDL1 wrote:

and in future we would like to create Vulkan and Metal backends

Oh there is no point in making a metal backend anymore, the authors of Vulkan (Khronos) made a metal/vulkan conversion library that let's vulkan run on metal (interestingly benchmarks show it to be faster than the equivalently written metal code due to optimizations the interface performs)

technically moltenVK was built by a third party and was licensable for quite a fee (aka not feasible to license for a small time dev), a year or so after that package was released as open source.

OvermindDL1 wrote:

ratchetfreak wrote:

OvermindDL1 wrote:

and in future we would like to create Vulkan and Metal backends

Oh there is no point in making a metal backend anymore, the authors of Vulkan (Khronos) made a metal/vulkan conversion library that let's vulkan run on metal (interestingly benchmarks show it to be faster than the equivalently written metal code due to optimizations the interface performs)

technically moltenVK was built by a third party and was licensable for quite a fee (aka not feasible to license for a small time dev), a year or so after that package was released as open source.

Huh, when did that happen and why does it not seem to be stated on the khronos moltenvk pages? Do you have links? As I recall the license was non-revocable (apache or so).

Broskev wrote:I fear the plural forms for Czech language are not that easy as the website would suggest. The rule should be:

everything ending with 1 except 11 = minuta
everything ending with 2-4 except 12,13,14 = minuty
everything else = minut

Po složených číslovkách končících na jeden, dva, tři, čtyři jsou v 1. p. možné tvary: dvacet jeden žák i dvacet jedna žáků, dvacet dva/tři/čtyři žáci i žáků nebo jedenadvacet i jednadvacet, dvaadvacet, třiadvacet, čtyřiadvacet žáků. Mluvnická shoda mezi podmětem vyjádřeným jmennou skupinou, která obsahuje číslovky jeden, dva, tři, čtyři, a přísudkem se řídí tvarem podstatného jména v podmětu. Je-li podstatné jméno v 1. p., nastupuje shoda podle posledního členu složené číslovky (dvacet jeden žák byl…, dvacet čtyři žáci byli…). Je-li podstatné jméno ve 2. p., pak je přísudkové sloveso ve středním rodě j. č.: dvacet jedna žáků (i jedenadvacet nebo jednadvacet žáků) bylo…, dvacet čtyři žáků (i čtyřiadvacet žáků) bylo… Tvary 2. p. jsou běžnější a přirozenější.

Omnifarious wrote:So, while DirectX probably has better performance when doing hardware rendering, it appears that OpenGL has the edge in software rendering.

dee- wrote:Two words:

gettext

Vulkan

bobingabout wrote:Except where OGL and DX11 cover 99% of the audience, Vulkan is restricted to newer hardware.
I guess this excludes windows Vista users. (Only DX10 there)

Does Vulkan even work in windows 7? Because that's what I'm using, Windows 7.

bobingabout wrote:whatever you do with graphics, as long as it is optimised for Windows 7, have fun. I'm still not a fan of anything released after 7. I have been playing with 10, but... it's not playing nice. (It's mostly the windows update thing that's bugging me)