vampiricdust wrote:Of course they move more stuff after you upgrade them. However, if you invested all the resources into blue belts & trains instead of research, you would have tens of thousands of blue belts and hundred of trains with thousands of rails. Bots excel in tight spaces where belts can't squeeze in the same way belts excel in tight spaces where trains & stations can't squeeze in. Not to mention bots are a higher tier of science and most of their power comes from infinite research. If belts had infinite research, this wouldn't be an issue.
This whole bots versus belts is like arguing a hardwired phone versus cell phones. OF COURSE HIGHER TECH IS BETTER.
I have noticed at work that people dismiss most of the time the hidden costs. You could invest billions of ressources into upgrading something, people will only look at the result and tell This thing is upright better.
Same thing in real life at my job. I'm in IT support.Typical discussion :
Financial department : "IT support is too expensive. Find a way to cost less money."
Boss : "Add self-care and Self-help for everything, and let the users help themselves. Less support, problem solved".
Me : "10 minutes of tech support time costs a lot less to the company than 1 hour lurking on the intranet to find answers for the end-user engineer"
Boss : "False : look at my excel spreadsheet : fucking DIY costs nothing, support costs money"
Financial department : "False : look at my excel spreadsheet : fucking DIY costs nothing, support costs money"
Conclusion, it is more profitable to pay people for not doing their job than to pay support to help people get back to work efficiently.
Same debate in bots vs belts. No matter how much bots cost to research, upgrade and upkeep, people only look at the most obvious result ans keep saying "See ? bots are OP".
I have a challenge for bot haters (and bot non haters, because it's a fun challenge) :
- Create a scenario with a fixed amount of raw ressources, lets say a million of each ressource, but no minable ore fields, no oil. Let it be in peaceful.
- Build/research whatever you want
- Goal is to move the contents of one full passive provider chest of green circuits 1000 tiles in any direction.
- Post your best time and the strategy.