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MiloRK wrote:Although I agree with some of the new night vision criticism--it could use some work--I really like the thinking behind it! Rewarding placement of lighting is an interesting idea, and other optic benefits could add to the usefulness of researching and wearing night vision goggles. Here's my stab at a night vision concept:

Normal Vision.png

Night Vision.png

Maybe you could upgrade your optics to get thermal vision:

Normal Vision_1.png

Night Vision_1.png

MeduSalem wrote:

MiloRK wrote:Although I agree with some of the new night vision criticism--it could use some work--I really like the thinking behind it! Rewarding placement of lighting is an interesting idea, and other optic benefits could add to the usefulness of researching and wearing night vision goggles. Here's my stab at a night vision concept:

Normal Vision.png

Night Vision.png

Maybe you could upgrade your optics to get thermal vision:

Normal Vision_1.png

Night Vision_1.png

Looks good... I'd be satisfied with that one.

MiloRK wrote:Although I agree with some of the new night vision criticism--it could use some work--I really like the thinking behind it! Rewarding placement of lighting is an interesting idea, and other optic benefits could add to the usefulness of researching and wearing night vision goggles. Here's my stab at a night vision concept:

Normal Vision.png

Night Vision.png

Maybe you could upgrade your optics to get thermal vision:

Normal Vision_1.png

Night Vision_1.png

Great Friday Facts, as always!

Obliterator2 wrote:I personally think it'd be better as actual night vision that can't cope with bright areas, but have a toggle button or an option to have it automatically toggle based on the light level.

I find myself removing the goggles when I'm in a well lit base, as it looks much better just with the natural lighting and lamps. I'd then have to re-equip the goggles if I wanted to venture out.
The example images are a good idea, but they both look really odd (1st looks like the lamps are sucking the green away, and the 2nd one looks like radioactive stuff is leaking from the factory), I think the main problem is coming from trying to mix both bright and dark

Edit: nolcotin had the right idea lol, here's a quick mockup using his first image, All I did was remove the red and blue channels and bumped up the brightness, but you get the idea :p

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nolcotin wrote:Your biggest problem with nightvision is that you're trying to simultaneously address 2 design goals:

(1) Nightvision should improve the appearance of dark areas
(2) Areas the player lit should still look accurate

In real life, you only wear night vision when you go into dark areas. In a brightly lit area, nightvision would wash out and present a less compelling image than unassisted vision.

My proposal:

Make Nightvision easy to toggle on and off - the player only puts on your nightvision goggles when going into a dark area. This still rewards the player for lighting things up, while still allowing a thematically appropriate filter that truely does improve visibility when venturing outside the base. In brightly lit areas, nightvision can still look terrible - it's not for here. Splitting out Identification, friend or foe (IFF) functionality would allow the player to have an accurate picture of what's going on at all times.

These were some quick mockups trying to illustrate the concept - ideally there's be some proper green filtering and soft edges going on.

Default State

Night Vision - Washing out Brightly Lit areas, making dark areas visible

Night Vision Off with IFF module on

Night Vision On with IFF module on

vedrit wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't use the nightvision goggles at all? I don't even research them.

MiloRK wrote:Although I agree with some of the new night vision criticism--it could use some work--I really like the thinking behind it! Rewarding placement of lighting is an interesting idea, and other optic benefits could add to the usefulness of researching and wearing night vision goggles. Here's my stab at a night vision concept:

Normal Vision.png

Night Vision.png

Maybe you could upgrade your optics to get thermal vision:

Normal Vision_1.png

Night Vision_1.png

Great Friday Facts, as always!

Proxy wrote:First.
And can't wait to see the Final Night vision effect

Adil wrote:What's that about "nightvision must be green" nonsense?
You know, it's not 80's today, cameras get better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ZIdu1adWg
and factorio guy is in future.
These days I play without nightvision tint, but it seems that the best one is that with gray uniluminated areas: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=38435&start=20#p229988