Djmixxx wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:11 am
After reading the Ukrainian channels about the
plundering of humanitarian aid and military equipment by Ukrainians in Ukraine, I even began to
respect the soldiers who are fighting for such a country.
That sound like the last time you tried to argue, you start with a big lie, like when you said there was no war or that the invasion was "
legally right and
morally wrong".
It's a
big lie and a
fake concession.
I tried to make the mirror evident, with the balden text.
The previous time you invented "expert" you could't even give 1 name. This is again something you couldn't source right ?
Or is it like this time you didn't understood the difference between "giving help" and "putting pressure" because you are brainwashed ?
You are maybe illetrate enough to not understand that Ukrainian people and Ukrainian army are those that are supposed to receive the aid in the first place ? Do you plunder your birthday gift ? what is the difference ?
Another alternative is that you really heard a fake news and had a confirmation biais. I have at least one example where it may have happened to you :
https://web.archive.org/web/20220603225 ... 6631516162
Remember this guy ?? you linked a part of video about him pretending going in Kyiv ??
Well guess what !? when other people called him liar, he decided to post a "proof" which seem to have now been removed from his twitter, hence the archive link.A picture of him in "Kyiv".
Which has since been prooven edited, and taken instead in Lviv :
https://twitter.com/RevelateursFTV/stat ... 9390076930
Later when called on phone by (real) journalist the guy you linked a short piece of video admited that his "proof" may have been taken somewhere else than Kyiv and been modified by someone else and he couldn't know
https://twitter.com/JulienPain/status/1 ... 0275394560
Turns out he also lied about his military past, mostly exagerating things and pretending to be at places where he couldn't have been and where no-one saw him.
https://www.liberation.fr/checknews/adr ... YEFXDRMOY/
Also for some reason he was seen talking on Russian TV from Moscow later on
https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/ ... se-5440456
Interestingly enough, his version of the events are different there, he say he personnally witness things and took videos , while on the french TV he said he only heard about things happening and received videos after people started to ask more factual questions about the dates and locations he said he wasn't sure.
You have prooven dishonnest in your 700+ post exclusively on this thread. You have posted videos of dishonnest person too. Maybe this would make it understandable to you how obvious you look when your credibility has become null ? Maybe you will call those calomny and refuse to acknowledge ? or try to mirror it blaming someone not here to defend oneself doing the same so as to justify you own actions and avoid talking about your own personnal responsability in doing war propaganda ?
Djmixxx wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:11 am
And you would be right, Ukrainian soldiers do not fight for money. they are not always paid and they have to make videos about it.
You mean the video where they ask for better weapons to defend their countries against 10 times more numerous russian artillery that is doing widespread bombing indiscriminatly on civilians and public infrastructure ? Where they ask for the same amount of weapon for defense that the aggressors uses for offence ?
I didn't heard any mention of money in those, that's not what motivate people who defend their home and the place where they grew their kids though they need it for food and other commodities. ( that's why Ukrainian receive things, contrary to the side that triggered the war, Russia, which is not receiving help in their brutal aggresssion.)
But again maybe you have some source for that ? So one can do some fact checking ?
Djmixxx wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:11 am
I thought Ukraine is more united against Russia. But it turned out everyone steals to the best of their ability. They don't seem to believe that the Ukrainian authorities will punish them later.
Oh really you thought Ukraine was more united against Russia ? that was your thought all along ? because that is pretty contradictory with the fact that you wrote 200 or 300 times on this thread "explaining" Ukrainian citizen were hostage by their nazi gov and needed liberation and other propaganda you admited to post already look :
Djmixxx wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:46 pm
Sorry for Google translate, maybe russian propaganda:
Kherson
"Hello, Alexander. I am from Kherson. Today, humanitarian aid was brought to us, and the Nazis immediately began to threaten with reprisals those who touch food from the "occupiers." Naturally, people are afraid to approach and take it, even if they are completely without supplies. Thus, creating the feeling that you are so hated here that they are ready to starve to death, although this is not so.
See ?
the same argument, the aid being plundered by evil nazi that are taking in hostage the population ?
This is pretty old, March 4, it's not even sure it was the same troll posting on the account. Otherwise why would you say "
I thought Ukraine is more united against Russia" ?
The self contradicting statement here is what you pretend to think, you already said Ukraine was divided country, and now you say you thought Ukraine is more united against Russia. Your thought seem like randomly generated content from broken algorithm, only saying mean things on Ukraine in a thread called "we support Ukraine" while you could do something positive to help your people. Just giving yourself pretext to fakely entertain a discussion where nothing you say is to be trusted since you can contradict any statement of your own, just the week or month after you made them. You pretend to say this is new and do as if changed your mind, but you have been posting those kind of crap almost since the beginning of the war, as your registration date on this forum and first post shows.
This is not so surprising after all given the example of your supreme leader :
Putin : I'm not blockading grain in Ukranine, the evil westerner are to blame for food price increase
Putin : The sanction are nothing for me, and my people can live with almost nothing they are used to it
Also Putin : Lift the sanctions if you want me to stop blocking grain in Ukraine, sanction are illegal and the 2 billion yatch is not even officiallly mine !
