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enterisys wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:58 pm
Wow independent investigators were allowed to visit Ukraine front to report.
The Office of the President of Ukraine stated that only the Russian army threatens the lives of Ukrainians, and Amnesty International's statements are nothing more than participation in Russia's discrediting campaign against Ukraine. Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba said he was outraged by Amnesty International's statement and considered it unfair.
So up to this point they wrote only what Ukraine liked.
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Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:58 pm
So when does russia will do the same?
Closer to never. Read the Russian media, they write only the truth and nothing but the truth. :lol:
I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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enterisys wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:53 pm
russia sanctioning its own people again :(
I guess russia doesnt really need $$$ since it is burning so much gas it can be seen from Finland.
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Given that my gas bill is now 340 euros instead of 76 euros a year earlier, everything is fine in Russia with money, don't worry.
I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:17 am
My position is peaceful world with friendly to nature living and eco technology developing by all country's.
but also djmixx
Djmixxx wrote:
Tue Mar 29, 2022 1:28 pm
Let's see what happens when they clean up Mariupol and go to smash the Ukrainian troops in Dombas.
And this is still AFTER you posted videos calling for murder of the Ukrainian people that you removed then and corrected your post with instead a "wrong post".

You keep lying on this thread and it's particularly obvious.

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Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:31 am
The Office of the President of Ukraine stated that only the Russian army threatens the lives of Ukrainians, and Amnesty International's statements are nothing more than participation in Russia's discrediting campaign against Ukraine. Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba said he was outraged by Amnesty International's statement and considered it unfair.
Closer to never. Read the Russian media, they write only the truth and nothing but the truth. :lol:
No source again for your quote ?

We can't read Russian media remember it's all censored in the West you complain about that yourself and for some reason on this forum. Last time you also posted that too many english text prevent you from reading, so it's quite dishonnest to post article you can't read no ? You go on a website you can't read/understand , and pick one random article ?

I just posted the links of the last articles with the word Ukraine in it. Just a non sorted list of the last articles, not picking up the one that i want to push on this forum because it fits a particular narrative. Like what you did in your 700+ post that are all on this thread. or when you only picked that one video from 26 february and avoided very hard the other video they made later that include the explanation of why Putin's war create apocalyptic famine for poor countries, even those that were close to russia.
( this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bupS-d_cAtk)

Including your first post here , 20 minutes or so after your registration in which you start right away by trying to justify the war with ethnic conflict.

You are the only one person that pay its gas 340 euro ( per year ? month ? ) and yet read Russian media.

That's a rare situation because amongst other thing you pretended to live in Latvia, where minimum wage is around 500 euro ? and you pay 340 euro for gas in the middle of summer ? Can you explain how come your gas bill are so high in the midde of summer when there are record temperature in Latvia ?

temperature is what 27°C 30°C today ? you heat much your place ?

When i look at the oil for car, then there is nowhere near close the increase you decribe .
https://www.mylpg.eu/stations/latvia/prices/


Oh WAIT
https://markets.businessinsider.com/new ... -us-2022-8
Russia halts natural gas exports to Latvia, sending European gas prices soaring as other nations brace for a full cut-off
Russia halted natural gas flows to Latvia, the Wall Street Journal reported Monday.
State-run Gazprom said it shut off flows to Latvia over the weekend, citing a violation of conditions.
European gas prices surged 6% as nations prepare for more Russian gas cuts.

Still though not sure why 76 euro become 340 euro suddenly. One must be pretty ignorant to just post this while most people in europe that actually pay bill just read the amount and realize that nothing is remotly close to what you describe. 6% increase not 500%. Maybe someone is scaming you djmix, that wouldn't be surprising to me as you seem very gullible when not dishonnest.
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Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:34 am
Given that my gas bill is now 340 euros instead of 76 euros a year earlier, everything is fine in Russia with money, don't worry.
I really think someone is scamming you, knowing your are 100% pro-russian, they try to make you pay a lot of money, when in the end that money will not go to russia since they are no longer selling gas to Latvia. You think all that money you are pretending to pay would go to russia, but no, most likely to the USA because they have ramped up their oil and gas supply to europe to Poland and Germany who have existing infrastructure for liquified gas storage and distribution.

You should read other thing than Russian media
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https://www.ibtimes.com/russian-disinfo ... ta-3597744
A Russian outfit hired people off the street and paid them to post online comments intended to give the impression of grassroots support for Moscow's invasion of Ukraine, Facebook owner Meta said Thursday.
Meta took down the network days after Fontanka reported in April about the group, which had advertised jobs for "spammers, commenters, content analysts, designers and programmers".

The "poorly" run operation bore similarities to efforts by the IRA some nine years ago in the way it hired just about anyone to help with online deception, Meta global threat intelligence lead Ben Nimmo told AFP.

"It's like 2013 is calling and it wants its troll farm back," Nimmo quipped. "It's built on people slumping on bean bags, being paid to run fake accounts and make these posts across the internet."
The effort came to light after a reporter for Russian news outlet Fontanka infiltrated the operation by getting a job at its St. Petersburg office, drawing Meta's attention.
Trolls apparently worked in shifts seven days per week, got daily lunch breaks and were paid about $440 a month, Meta said.
I just post this article without any link to djmix, i'm not saying djmix is a paid troll.

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Amnesty International sited in London released "surprising" report about Ukraine army criminal activities
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... civilians/
Military bases set up in residential areas including schools and hospitals
Attacks launched from populated civilian areas
Such violations in no way justify Russia’s indiscriminate attacks, which have killed and injured countless civilians
Ukrainian Army Tactics of house invasion, fallowed by transforming house into a military fire position while civilians are force locked inside. Known as Human shields. This terrorist tactic is widely disused around internet, and video documented by various sources. However, this is first time when systematic atrocities of Ukrainian army are openly criticized by western banks funded organization.
Amnesty International contacted the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence with the findings of the research on 29 July 2022. At the time of publication, they had not yet responded.

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gGeorg wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:11 am
Amnesty International sited in London released "surprising" report about Ukraine army criminal activities
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... civilians/
Military bases set up in residential areas including schools and hospitals
Attacks launched from populated civilian areas
Such violations in no way justify Russia’s indiscriminate attacks, which have killed and injured countless civilians
Ukrainian Army Tactics of house invasion, fallowed by transforming house into a military fire position while civilians are force locked inside. Known as Human shields. This terrorist tactic is widely disused around internet, and video documented by various sources. However, this is first time when systematic atrocities of Ukrainian army are openly criticized by western banks funded organization.
That's such a coincidence that's exactly the same exact article djmix posted yesterday !
why do both of you who voiced your russian support think this one is interesting and not the others ?
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Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:55 pm

Look :

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... e-justice/
Ukraine: Russian soldiers filmed viciously attacking Ukrainian POW must face justice

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... r-critics/
Russia: Authorities must drop case against Ilya Yashin – latest victim of clampdown on war critics

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... raine-war/
Russia: Municipal councillor sentenced to seven years in jail for opposing the Ukraine war

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... ch-resort/
Ukraine: Civilians killed by ‘reckless’ Russian attacks on Serhiivka apartment block and beach resort

https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eu ... 1/2022/ru/
Russia: Release prisoner of conscience Dmitry Talantov

even this :

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... stigation/
Hundreds of civilians have been killed in the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv by indiscriminate Russian shelling using widely banned cluster munitions and inherently inaccurate rockets, Amnesty International said today.

A new report, ‘Anyone can die at any time’: Indiscriminate attacks by Russian forces in Kharkiv, Ukraine, documents how Russian forces have caused widespread death and destruction by relentlessly bombarding residential neighbourhoods of Kharkiv since their invasion began in late February.

During an extensive investigation, Amnesty International found evidence of Russian forces repeatedly using 9N210/9N235 cluster munitions as well as scatterable mines, both of which are subject to international treaty bans because of their indiscriminate effects.

“The people of Kharkiv have faced a relentless barrage of indiscriminate attacks in recent months, which killed and injured hundreds of civilians,” said Donatella Rovera, Amnesty International’s Senior Crisis Response Adviser.

“People have been killed in their homes and in the streets, in playgrounds and in cemeteries, while queueing for humanitarian aid, or shopping for food and medicine.

“The repeated use of widely banned cluster munitions is shocking, and a further indication of utter disregard for civilian lives. The Russian forces responsible for these horrific attacks must be held accountable for their actions, and victims and their families must receive full reparations.”

The director of the Medical Department at the Kharkiv Regional Military Administration told Amnesty International that 606 civilians had been killed and 1,248 injured in the Kharkiv region since the conflict began.Most of the strikes investigated by Amnesty International inflicted multiple casualties over widespread areas.

While Russia is not a party to either the Convention on Cluster Munitionsor the Convention on Anti-Personnel Mines, international humanitarian law prohibits indiscriminate attacks, and the use of weapons that are indiscriminate by nature. Launching indiscriminate attacks resulting in death or injury to civilians, or damage to civilian objects, constitutes war crimes.

This is called "media biais" i explained it to you too Georg ealier, it's when you act as a media and decide for yourself which article or fact you consider worth sharing. I think all those article are interesting, not just the one you published.

Also this is interesting don't you think ?
mmmPI wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:07 pm
Stop the aggression and attacks on civilians in Ukraine[/b]

https://www.amnesty.org/en/petition/rus ... n-ukraine/
As the war rages on following Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, we have documented a pattern of crimes committed by Russian forces, including unlawful attacks, wilful killings of civilians, torture, and extrajudicial executions. Take action to demand that the Russian authorities stop this act of aggression and systemic attacks on civilians now.

At 5am on the 24 February, people across Ukraine woke to the news that their country was being invaded by the Russian military. In the middle of the night, Russian tanks rolled into the country and the military attacked from multiple directions.

As the war rages on, the sheer scale of the human rights violations and war crimes is exposed with every passing day. Entire neighbourhoods have been destroyed in places like Borodyanka, through disproportionate and indiscriminate attacks, leaving thousands of people homeless. In towns like Bucha, Andriivka, Zdvyzhivka and Vorzel, our researchers collected evidence and testimony of unlawful killings, including apparent extrajudicial executions. Some victims had their hands tied behind their back, others showed signs of torture. Convoys of civilians fleeing with their children were fired upon.

Russia’s decision to use force against another state without any legal justification has unleashed a catastrophic human rights crisis on the people of Ukraine. It is also having devastating implications on the human rights of many far beyond Ukraine, affecting global food chains and driving high energy prices around the world. The Russian Federation must stop this act of aggression against Ukraine and end the pattern of war crimes. Those responsible for atrocities must be held to account in fair trials. We must use our power in numbers to call for this to stop.
Sign the petition to President Vladimir Putin and demand that Russia stops this act of aggression and systemic attacks on civilians now.

** Your full name, email address and location will not be disclosed to the recipient of the petition.

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American citizen Ben Velcro who work as mercenary for Ukraine army says, almost accurate quote, he is drunk as he speak :
We cut Achilles tendons of a Russian soldier, then force him to swim over the river. We just wanted to know if it is possible to swim without tendons. He was like 18. When he was swimming, we used him as target practice. Shot him dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m6oYSsCFvk

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gGeorg wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:24 pm
poorly edited video with half russian for them troll to understand and half english because uncle sam is evil
I don't think it's a good idea to start a war like putin did exactly because war could unleash the behavior described in your video in humans.

However the behavior described in the video is not the same as the fact happening in the real world. Your video offer no clue as to why the man is automatically labeled as american ? And also no proof at all that this is not just a pure fantasy, it's very easy to pretend thing in front of a camera, it doesn't make it true. Some people have really stupid way of bragging /trolling. Nor as to why he start the video by saying "i'm not going to incriminate myself", and then incriminate himself. That's not the only cut that clearly show the intent of the person who made the video, there are dozen cuts which makes it really ridiculous to present as proof of anything except poor attempt at demonizing someone from a country that supply weapons to Ukraine. You must have no critical sense to consider this highly edited video by anonymous author represeting himself with Z banner is a source of information.

Still no explanation why you post those in here ? why do you think it's interesting for example ? this contrary to amnesty statement is just a random video from the internet with no facts that could be verified, no location, no date, nothing to remotely think this may be true, not even the identity of the person who posted it yesterday.

You must be very proud to help this video gets 500 views, that would the most viewed video in the channel since they started to post pro-russian one in 2015, but why not post it to your pro-russian friends ? posting it on a public thread with people who may ask question and will not just straight away believe everything they are shown/told is truth is not the same as posting it the vkontakt pages where this kind of low-level thing is usually relegated because that allow people that have no critical sense to stay confined in their bubble.

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Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:34 am
enterisys wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:53 pm
russia sanctioning its own people again :(
I guess russia doesnt really need $$$ since it is burning so much gas it can be seen from Finland.
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Given that my gas bill is now 340 euros instead of 76 euros a year earlier, everything is fine in Russia with money, don't worry.
That is a bullshit because all russian gas that is sold russian customers is fixed price and irrelevant to market price.

Also how exactly EU pays 200 EUR/MWh if russia gas exports are close to zero.
Zero multiplied by 200 is still zero, no?
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Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:31 am
enterisys wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:58 pm
Wow independent investigators were allowed to visit Ukraine front to report.
The Office of the President of Ukraine stated that only the Russian army threatens the lives of Ukrainians, and Amnesty International's statements are nothing more than participation in Russia's discrediting campaign against Ukraine. Foreign Minister Dmitry Kuleba said he was outraged by Amnesty International's statement and considered it unfair.
So up to this point they wrote only what Ukraine liked.
You're saying it like smol Ukraine has so much influence on every independent journalist/reporter in the world.
Or maybe they were just writing the actual facts. Shame the facts does not line to hallucinogenic shit that you like.
Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:31 am
enterisys wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:58 pm
So when does russia will do the same?
Closer to never. Read the Russian media, they write only the truth and nothing but the truth. :lol:
Wow you're such a russian troll :lol:

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gGeorg wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 10:11 am
Amnesty International sited in London released "surprising" report about Ukraine army criminal activities
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/ ... civilians/
Military bases set up in residential areas including schools and hospitals
Attacks launched from populated civilian areas
Such violations in no way justify Russia’s indiscriminate attacks, which have killed and injured countless civilians
Ukrainian Army Tactics of house invasion, fallowed by transforming house into a military fire position while civilians are force locked inside. Known as Human shields. This terrorist tactic is widely disused around internet, and video documented by various sources. However, this is first time when systematic atrocities of Ukrainian army are openly criticized by western banks funded organization.
Amnesty International contacted the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence with the findings of the research on 29 July 2022. At the time of publication, they had not yet responded.
It is truly amazing how all russian bots wake up as soon as they supervisors push some propaganda shit on any website.

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gGeorg wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:24 pm
American citizen Ben Velcro who work as mercenary for Ukraine army says, almost accurate quote, he is drunk as he speak :
We cut Achilles tendons of a Russian soldier, then force him to swim over the river. We just wanted to know if it is possible to swim without tendons. He was like 18. When he was swimming, we used him as target practice. Shot him dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m6oYSsCFvk
Rolf nice try. Good studio recording with russian accent.
What could be worse? :D

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Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:09 am
It's funny to read how I am unreasonably accused of what they themselves are doing.

I posted a link to the article. I, unlike you, did not focus on something.
yeah, you didn't even answer the question

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Where did we (as a species) go wrong that such a high percentage of the world’s population believes so many of these bs conspiracy snuffs?

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FuryoftheStars wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:29 pm
Where did we (as a species) go wrong that such a high percentage of the world’s population believes so many of these bs conspiracy snuffs?
When someone tells us what we want to hear we tend to believe them, and ignore evidence to the contrary.

With today's internet and social media streams it is easier than ever to find someone saying you what you want to hear, and ignore evidence to the contrary.

(I'm fairly sure that there are multiple western media companies deliberately peddling false and/or misleading theories and information simply because doing so gets them views, and hence advertising revenue. And state sponsored media entities deliberately pushing propaganda).

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enterisys wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:41 pm
Djmixxx wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:34 am
enterisys wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:53 pm
russia sanctioning its own people again :(
I guess russia doesnt really need $$$ since it is burning so much gas it can be seen from Finland.
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Given that my gas bill is now 340 euros instead of 76 euros a year earlier, everything is fine in Russia with money, don't worry.
That is a bullshit because all russian gas that is sold russian customers is fixed price and irrelevant to market price.

Also how exactly EU pays 200 EUR/MWh if russia gas exports are close to zero.
Zero multiplied by 200 is still zero, no?

Zero only in Ukraine. In Europe it is not so bad. Gas is enough, only price to high. But is possible to understand, USA need to sell their gas to Europe with good price.
I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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enterisys wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:44 pm

You're saying it like smol Ukraine has so much influence on every independent journalist/reporter in the world.
Or maybe they were just writing the actual facts. Shame the facts does not line to hallucinogenic shit that you like.
Well, now the facts do not correspond to the hallucinogenic shit that the Ukrainian government and media exports and which you like so much. What a turn !

It is especially interesting to watch how farts exploded at the entire Ukrainian government.
What a horror, someone dared not kiss Ukraine on the ass.

I can fully imagine that Russia is doing shit in Ukraine, but Ukraine is also responsible for the same. The spread of anti-personnel mines across Donetsk is very indicative. But of course, Ukraine could not do this, because it loves Russian Ukrainians in Donetsk so much.
I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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FuryoftheStars wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:29 pm
Where did we (as a species) go wrong that such a high percentage of the world’s population believes so many of these bs conspiracy snuffs?
It's called evolution. You can't survive if you don't doubt everything.
Starting with the question, is it possible to eat these beautiful red berries. Those who survived were the ones who waited until the not-so-cautious tried them and died.
I think your are confusing my opinion with the truth.

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