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[0.18.29] Some electric substations not connecting to the near substations

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:47 am
by nahrip
Hi all,
Sorry for my english, I have no practis for 7 years.

So. What i have done -
I go to map view,
Go to some plase where I need, and begin plasing electricity substations.
In some time i came back to this plase and found that substation doesn`t connect to Neighbors.

Image
https://prntscr.com/ss49bx
If I will remove this substation and put it manualy - it will be connected.


PS
I can`t remember the first such mistake, but it happens already a week or two.

Re: [0.18.29] Some electric substations not connecting to the near substations

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:11 am
by invisus
Is it possible that you're preforming a "Shift + Left Click" on this substation?

From the wiki:
https://wiki.factorio.com/Keyboard_bind ... nteraction
Key combination
SHIFT + Left mouse button

Effect
Remove pole cables

Description
Removes wires from the selected electric pole, starting with electric wires and then circuit network wires.

Re: [0.18.29] Some electric substations not connecting to the near substations

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:52 am
by nahrip
NO.

I just place a ghost of substation through the map.

Re: [0.18.29] Some electric substations not connecting to the near substations

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:54 pm
by Loewchen
Do know a way to reproduce this?

Re: [0.18.29] Some electric substations not connecting to the near substations

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:12 am
by nahrip
Hi,

It`s fully random. But works with goust of items. If I will plase Electricity manualy - its work fine.

I put this 500 times in one line (put on the ground an run to the right with pressed mous button) - no reproduction (almost 1500 substation on a ground)
on second try - wires doesnt connected on first substations
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Re: [0.18.29] Some electric substations not connecting to the near substations

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:20 pm
by robot256
Could be the connection number limit? I can't view your blueprint right now. Substations have a limit of 5 connections to other poles. If they are in a grid with three substations and two other poles are place nearby before the fourth substation, there will not be any connections left for the last substation.

Re: [0.18.29] Some electric substations not connecting to the near substations

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:40 am
by nahrip
Sorry for my 1 week vacation.

1) In the first image that I attach - Substation have 2 connetcts and doesn connected to the right substation (this connection must be 3 connection, 3<5)

2) https://prnt.sc/syad76
https://prnt.sc/syarob - it`s Map veiw with "electriciti" on it. (right frame with my notes)
I rebuild last test to new blueprints with 4 connections

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If this situation correct - than first situation is just a side effect of this algoritm
So I, with my luck, caught an extremely unlikely collateral error.
Especially after the update, I can`t reproduce it for 4 hours

Re: [0.18.29] Some electric substations not connecting to the near substations

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 4:18 pm
by Rseding91
Without a reliable way to reproduce anything there's nothing I can do. Also considering this is the only report I've seen about this (ever) I suspect some other thing is going on.