[IDEA/REQUEST] MARS: Terraforming and Colonization

[Lucianus]

It would be a total conversion, sort of. The player can gather resources and use them to build structures useful for terraforming the planet. Machines for thickening the atmosphere, adding oxygen, creating water and steam. Greenhouses for oxygen and experimenting with modified plants for growing outside. research will be heavily modifed, with new technologies for those new buildings and new ones, like space elevators. The final objective could be reaching some levels of CO2 or temperature, the arrival of a rocket from Earth, or the birth of the first true martian.

[Xiphoris]

+1. I've often wanted more to do in the endgame in Factorio. A large, expensive, terraforming project would be an excellent sink for endgame resources.

[foodfactorio]

hi, i'm sure that there are some companies or groups of people (probably in the scientific community), that are already calculating the viability of these things, but maybe there is a way to do this for fun games of factorio, while only mainly using Technology, and Resources that are actually available?

this way, a lot more people will try to do things, which could even help the the viability aspect in some way

Assuming that a certain type and quantity of resources exist here on Earth, (which are actually made available for this endeavour and not used for other purposes or squandered/fought over), then it could be a fun way to see whether we can make a good go of it in terms of expanding to other planets, and only using certain resources while we still have them

[foodfactorio]

There is also a cool SpaceX mod here which is worth trying out as well, and maybe has some cross-over aspects?
https://mods.factorio.com/mods/LordKTor/SpaceMod

[Lucianus]

It's a very cool mod, ideal for late game.
Some ideas about terrain and map generation:
- No trees. A basic stone/pastic material shound replace wood for early recipes.
- No seas/lakes. Water should be found underground, in little quantities, therefore not usable for power. power should be provided initially by basic solar panels. Maybe heolic also.
- Red terrain. Sand, dirt, everything red and simmilar tones.
- mineral zones instead of free mineral fields. a more realistic approach to mining.
- A geographical approach: poles and craters rich with frozen CO2, absent solar power. equatorial zones optimal for solar plants. It could encourage a large network.

[mrvn]

On a under the hood side:

Change all structures to not produce pollution except for the terraforming stations. Then make the end goal to reach 100% evolution.

You could add farms for growing moss, grass, trees and maybe allow building them only where there is enough pollution (terraforming). The more
terraforming the better a farm you can build. Or better the farm would work but yields would differ depending on pollution.

[Lucianus]

On a under the hood side:

Change all structures to not produce pollution except for the terraforming stations. Then make the end goal to reach 100% evolution.

You could add farms for growing moss, grass, trees and maybe allow building them only where there is enough pollution (terraforming). The more
terraforming the better a farm you can build. Or better the farm would work but yields would differ depending on pollution.

Good ideas. Trees also should spread "pollution" too

[mrvn]

On a under the hood side:

Change all structures to not produce pollution except for the terraforming stations. Then make the end goal to reach 100% evolution.

You could add farms for growing moss, grass, trees and maybe allow building them only where there is enough pollution (terraforming). The more
terraforming the better a farm you can build. Or better the farm would work but yields would differ depending on pollution.

Good ideas. Trees also should spread "pollution" too

Trees, or rather forests, could be buildings too so I see no problem there. Basically greenhouses without the house.

[foodfactorio]

theres also a mod called Alien Biomes that might have the red look for the ground
and i saw some tree saplings planting mods and a no-trees mod too that could help

[PTTG]

I would be so down for this.

I think that there would be some idea of there being a civilian population -- maybe all buildings need abstracted-out workers, so as you expand your industry you need to build more habitats, and more farms, and more pressure suit factories, and more hospitals, and more entertainment zones, and more luxury factories...

[Lucianus]

I would be so down for this.

I think that there would be some idea of there being a civilian population -- maybe all buildings need abstracted-out workers, so as you expand your industry you need to build more habitats, and more farms, and more pressure suit factories, and more hospitals, and more entertainment zones, and more luxury factories...

This remind me of an old pc game, Outpost 2. It was a RTS on an alien world, it had a great survival and scifi atmoshpere. Have a look if you don't know this game, is still really good. Btw there's a mod with "population", you have to satisfy the needs of some colony pods sending them resources.

[PTTG]

I think I found the one you're talking about:

viewtopic.php?f=94&t=23170

That does look cool, and would be a good baseline for further development. I for one would like to see it go a little farther and actually have habitat domes in need of oxygen and food, maybe with progress points where more structures like a tavern or a medibay or what have you is needed.

I admit that this essentially consists of building a city builder on top of the game as it is, don't want to minimize that.

OH! Neat thought: citizens could have actual assignments that make them act as low-level logistics and construction bots. Even combat bots.

The advantage is that they're a hell of a lot cheaper in terms of infrastructure, but they're much harder to replace and expand, and they are harder to control.

[Lucianus]

I remember the Homeworld mod, it was very nice. But I think it's a little different concept, because in my idea there's enviroment alteration through machines.

[Lucianus]

Hi people, just bumbing this thread, maybe with the latest space missions someone with a little hype could think about developing this idea