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FactorioBot wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:07 pm

• Removed the utility slots (to create blueprint, book etc) from blueprint library as it is now available directly through quick tools menu.

Not sure what I think of this one... I was used to getting them from the library, and I don't see how it does any harm to have them available in two places.

FactorioBot wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:07 pm

• Allowed to choose whether train fuel should be included in a blueprint.

So now robots can load fuel into trains while placing it on rails?

Merssedes wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:32 pm

FactorioBot wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:07 pm

• Allowed to choose whether train fuel should be included in a blueprint.

So now robots can load fuel into trains while placing it on rails?

Since the patch which allowed you to blueprint trains, robots were able to fuel trains according to the blueprint.
With this change you can remove fuel from the blueprint via checkbox, likes "Tiles" or "Entities"

The GUI overhaul is working as great as to be expected from the fff. Two things comming to mind:

1) all the unsused space in the character tab would be perfect to implement more toggleable modules (belt immunity, night vision, PLDs). Preferably with some new shortcuts.

2) Maybe a reset button next to the color sliders, to easily return to the default [221;127;33] engineer.

To be honest, everything seems to be normal, but you can’t see at all what can be crafted and what is not, there is no background illumination of what can be crafted, only the numbers on these items are visible, it was better seen before. Have to do a mod.

What I don't like about the new character GUI is that i have to change tabs all the time between crafting and logistics. In this regard usability was a lot better in the old version

SchniSchnaSchnuck wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:58 pm

What I don't like about the new character GUI is that i have to change tabs all the time between crafting and logistics. In this regard usability was a lot better in the old version

+1 too many clicks

I LIKE THE NEW GUI A LOT INDEED!

I like it! Almost feels like “dark mode”.

Only issues I’ve noticed are the disabled items (can’t craft) are harder to distinguish - dark red vs dark black is kind of close - maybe faded also like before?

The other thing is setting logistics on a requestor chest is annoying - I keep clicking outside the window that pops up assuming it will “save” instead of clicking the green checkbox.

the visability for the recipes is rather bad since the update. beside that i like it.

I preferred the old style of empty grey boxes over the rubber squares.
Any chance we could get an option or a mod to revert that part of the design?

how to add a user defined deconstruction plan to the toolbar now?

I'm used to have a deconstruction planner in toolbar for trees only, or turrets, or whatever ..

edit: nevermind. copied the standard one into toolbar

Why did we have to remove the ability to create a blueprint, from the blueprint menu? I'm not sure how it's helpful that when you hit B only the ability to create a blueprint book is available. Alt+B is OK, but why need an extra key?

herkalurk wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:17 pm

Why did we have to remove the ability to create a blueprint, from the blueprint menu? I'm not sure how it's helpful that when you hit B only the ability to create a blueprint book is available. Alt+B is OK, but why need an extra key?

I find the current solution perfect

brunzenstein wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:22 pm

herkalurk wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:17 pm

Why did we have to remove the ability to create a blueprint, from the blueprint menu? I'm not sure how it's helpful that when you hit B only the ability to create a blueprint book is available. Alt+B is OK, but why need an extra key?

I find the current solution perfect

I don't find it unperfect, but grouping all of the blueprint options together under a menu opened by the B key seemed simple and elegant to me, as opposed to only separate key commands for each time (blueprint, upgrade, deconstruct).

burninghey wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:29 pm

how to add a user defined deconstruction plan to the toolbar now?

I'm used to have a deconstruction planner in toolbar for trees only, or turrets, or whatever ..

edit: nevermind. copied the standard one into toolbar

As soon as you put a DP in the quick bar, you can edit (user defined deconstruction plan) the DP to your hearts content

herkalurk wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:25 pm

brunzenstein wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:22 pm

herkalurk wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:17 pm

Why did we have to remove the ability to create a blueprint, from the blueprint menu? I'm not sure how it's helpful that when you hit B only the ability to create a blueprint book is available. Alt+B is OK, but why need an extra key?

I find the current solution perfect

I don't find it unperfect, but grouping all of the blueprint options together under a menu opened by the B key seemed simple and elegant to me, as opposed to only separate key commands for each time (blueprint, upgrade, deconstruct).

I sign that

I am quite happy with the new GUI look and feel.
But: Is it modable? Can we replace the backgrounds, alter margins and change colors or even fonts of existing ingame dialogues?
GUI theming mods would be a nice category to have.

Oktokolo wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:21 pm

I am quite happy with the new GUI look and feel.
But: Is it modable? Can we replace the backgrounds, alter margins and change colors or even fonts of existing ingame dialogues?
GUI theming mods would be a nice category to have.

The entire set of GUI graphical elements - buttons, corners, frames - is contained in a single sprite sheet. The game can only refer to one of these gui element template files at once. Theoretically you could replace it with your own one, but it would be days/weeks of work to do anything more involved than tinting the whole thing pink.

Many of the default styles (for things like margins, padding, font sizes, font colours, button tints etc.) have always been editable by mods, but there are some elements of game GUIs which aren't accessible, I'm guessing because their styles are generated at runtime. A small subset of those GUI elements, mostly tints and transparency levels of things like crafting buttons, are moddable en masse through specific utility constants.

LuziferSenpai wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:59 pm

FactorioBot wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:07 pm

Removed the utility slots (to create blueprint, book etc) from blueprint library as it is now available directly through quick tools menu.

Pls add support for Custom RGB and other Style like no Background and images for the quickbar! Otherwise you will break a lot of mods and dont give them a nice option for custom Tools.

Does that mean all custom selection tools need to implement an extra button in the overcrowded shortcut menu now? That would be rather unfortunate for things that aren't used that often (i.e. a screenshot area selection tool).