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Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:02 pm
by porcupine
Anybody have any info towards when 0.17 experimental will drop?

I want to start a new game (haven't played through since .15, but I don't want to start until .17 so things don't get stale!). I tried to search the forums for hints, but for some reason it can't properly match "0.17", "*.17", etc., so I'm sure this has been asked before! :)

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:35 am
by Koub
porcupine wrote:Anybody have any info towards when 0.17 experimental will drop?
I'd say not even the devs :)

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:11 am
by porcupine
Koub wrote:
porcupine wrote:Anybody have any info towards when 0.17 experimental will drop?
I'd say not even the devs :)
Not even a ballpark?! Secrecy only does favors for so long!

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 6:38 am
by Dergonic
The only replyies the dev gives is "When it will be ready".
No specific release date have been given ... yet

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:04 am
by Zavian
My guess is not before December. But it could easily be March of next year or later. So if you want to play, I'd start a 0.16 game rather than waiting. (If you want to keep things fresh consider playing Bobs + Angels or Seablock (which includes Bobs and Angels) or some other mod set.

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:51 am
by Koub
If you can manage to get perfect knowledge of the quantic state of the whole universe at a given time, with enough computation power, you'll be able to compute, and get back to past conditions that led to the current present backwards on the arrow of time, and the future on the forward direction of time. As soon as you're there, please let us know what the 0.17 release date will be : both the community and the devs will be very interested I'm sure :mrgreen:

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:00 pm
by Gergely
Koub wrote:the devs will be very interested :mrgreen:
Oh I'm sure.
Let's just hope that no black holes are part of the equation.
Zavian wrote:My guess is not before December. But it could easily be March of next year or later. So if you want to play, I'd start a 0.16 game rather than waiting. (If you want to keep things fresh consider playing Bobs + Angels or Seablock (which includes Bobs and Angels) or some other mod set.
My guess is definitely before February, unless something really unexpected happens.

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:23 pm
by porcupine
Zavian wrote:My guess is not before December. But it could easily be March of next year or later. So if you want to play, I'd start a 0.16 game rather than waiting. (If you want to keep things fresh consider playing Bobs + Angels or Seablock (which includes Bobs and Angels) or some other mod set.
Yeah my last playthrough was with Bob's. Haven't seen Seablock yet, will have to check that out.

I *thought* we were really far down the checklist for 0.17 goals (at the rate stuff getting checked off), and we'd see 0.17 drop much sooner (IE: in a month or three). Darn :p

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:53 am
by lollibast
Koub wrote:If you can manage to get perfect knowledge of the quantic state of the whole universe at a given time, with enough computation power, you'll be able to compute, and get back to past conditions that led to the current present backwards on the arrow of time, and the future on the forward direction of time. As soon as you're there, please let us know what the 0.17 release date will be : both the community and the devs will be very interested I'm sure :mrgreen:
sorry to inform you that this is wrong, has been known to be wrong for a 100 years too :p

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:39 pm
by DaveMcW
Specifically, "perfect knowledge" and "quantic state" are not compatible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:11 pm
by Koub
I'm no quantic physics specialist, but I was under the impression that this was true in the boring old Copehnagen interpretation of the quantum theory (the one everyone who deosn't know much about quantum theory has heard about), whereas the de Broglie and Bohm's pilot wave theory was compatible with a deterministic understanding of the quantum theory (thus allowing the forward and backward time unraveling, at least in theory).

However all this is highly off topic. One has no idea of when 0.17 will be anounced, let alone released, so be patient, and wait.

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:30 pm
by Gergely
Koub wrote:be patient, and wait.
For an update that maybe fixes all issues with the game's current state.

Sure. I'm patient.

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:20 pm
by zOldBulldog
Gergely wrote:
Koub wrote:be patient, and wait.
For an update that maybe fixes all issues with the game's current state.

Sure. I'm patient.
Keep in mind that several band-aid approaches have come out on how to deal with those issues (avoid cliffs, avoid too much water, keep frequency way down, use circuits and creative designs to address some needs, mods, etc).

It might be nice to see the issues fixed, but by making wise choices we can endure until 0.17 comes out without too much pain.

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:50 pm
by eradicator
zOldBulldog wrote:
Gergely wrote:
Koub wrote:be patient, and wait.
For an update that maybe fixes all issues with the game's current state.
Sure. I'm patient.
Keep in mind that several band-aid approaches have come out on how to deal with those issues (avoid cliffs, avoid too much water, keep frequency way down, use circuits and creative designs to address some needs, mods, etc).
It might be nice to see the issues fixed, but by making wise choices we can endure until 0.17 comes out without too much pain.
I love how you manage to talk about a great game like it was some failed studen project that crashes every 5 minutes.
Also i need moar time to make mods before 0.17 hits :p.

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:25 pm
by SgtFourLeaf
Hi,

First of all, thank you for your hard work :).

Do you think that is possible to see an update of this thread? Could be nice to see where exactly you are comparing with your goals. I know that the Friday facts are more or less what I'm asking for, but to keep the Roadmap Todo list updated(done, in process, next release, etc) could be a nice gift for those who are enjoying the game and that are waiting for the 0.17 version.

Maybe, I'm asking too much, but it worth the try.

Have a good day and continue with your awesome job.

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:36 am
by Jap2.0
SgtFourLeaf wrote:Hi,

First of all, thank you for your hard work :).

Do you think that is possible to see an update of this thread? Could be nice to see where exactly you are comparing with your goals. I know that the Friday facts are more or less what I'm asking for, but to keep the Roadmap Todo list updated(done, in process, next release, etc) could be a nice gift for those who are enjoying the game and that are waiting for the 0.17 version.

Maybe, I'm asking too much, but it worth the try.

Have a good day and continue with your awesome job.
This is my best guess from what I could find in publically available sources. Some information may not have been announced publicly (and hence isn't on here) and some information is my best guess based on vague wording.

Known completed for 0.17
In progress
No information/not started

Major features:
  • Overhauled new player experience/tutorial/campaign/whatever it is/etc.
  • Improved map gen
  • Improved blueprint library
  • Improved sound design (environmental sound and sound effects)
  • Improved map editor (90%)
Graphics:
  • Complete engine rewrite
    • Now uses OpenGL 3.2/DX 11 (feature level 10)
    • CPU optimizations
    • GPU optimizations
    • Support for Metal, Vulkan, etc.
  • HR walls and gates
  • HR spawners
  • HR enemies
Gui:
  • GUI rewrite
    • Train GUI
    • Tech tree
    • Map generator GUI
    • Sound settings GUI
Minor features/changes:
  • Temporary train stops
  • Rich and interactive text
  • Fast pipe replacement
  • Better plural locaizations
  • Science packs have their own researches
  • Power armor mk. 2 requires level 2 modules
  • Beacons and level 3 modules require production science
  • Train out of fuel indicator
  • Image tags
  • Sync mods to save syncs settings
  • Infinity pipe
  • Tech queue
  • Sync mods to server
  • Multiple installed versions of a mod
  • Cloning entities/areas
  • Lua function to generate a full tech tree
  • Better fluid physics
  • Spidertron
  • Vehicles are built with some fuel inserted from your inventory
  • More mini-tutorials
  • Autoplace improvements
  • Recipe tree
  • Something regarding input handling
Optimizations:
  • See Graphics
  • Fluid physics (?)
  • Unknown (because you know they won't just not optimize)
Possible features (not explicitly confirmed):
  • Second progress bar for long loading tasks
  • Actually being able to drive cars, and in multiplayer
This omits most mod and bug-related stuff for various reasons. If anyone has any suggestions or corrections, please let me know.

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:04 am
by steinio
Green and Red sucks With this Board background color.

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:47 pm
by Gergely
Jap2.0 wrote:
SgtFourLeaf wrote:Hi,

First of all, thank you for your hard work :).

Do you think that is possible to see an update of this thread? Could be nice to see where exactly you are comparing with your goals. I know that the Friday facts are more or less what I'm asking for, but to keep the Roadmap Todo list updated(done, in process, next release, etc) could be a nice gift for those who are enjoying the game and that are waiting for the 0.17 version.

Maybe, I'm asking too much, but it worth the try.

Have a good day and continue with your awesome job.
This is my best guess from what I could find in publically available sources. Some information may not have been announced publicly (and hence isn't on here) and some information is my best guess based on vague wording.

Known completed for 0.17
In progress
No information/not started

...

This omits most mod and bug-related stuff for various reasons. If anyone has any suggestions or corrections, please let me know.
You could try to create a new topic somewhere for this. It will sink under the replies here.

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:59 pm
by Bilka
Gergely wrote: You could try to create a new topic somewhere for this. It will sink under the replies here.
You might want to take a look at https://wiki.factorio.com/Upcoming_features :)

Re: Factorio Roadmap for 0.17+

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:08 pm
by SgtFourLeaf
Jap2.0 wrote:
SgtFourLeaf wrote:Hi,

First of all, thank you for your hard work :).

Do you think that is possible to see an update of this thread? Could be nice to see where exactly you are comparing with your goals. I know that the Friday facts are more or less what I'm asking for, but to keep the Roadmap Todo list updated(done, in process, next release, etc) could be a nice gift for those who are enjoying the game and that are waiting for the 0.17 version.

Maybe, I'm asking too much, but it worth the try.

Have a good day and continue with your awesome job.
This is my best guess from what I could find in publically available sources. Some information may not have been announced publicly (and hence isn't on here) and some information is my best guess based on vague wording.

Known completed for 0.17
In progress
No information/not started
Long road to 0.17. Thank you very much :).