Re: Version 0.16.51
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:14 am
0.16.51 is already marked as stable on Steam.Liono2010 wrote:When this version is going to be marked stable on steam? On steam the stable version is still 0.16.36.
0.16.51 is already marked as stable on Steam.Liono2010 wrote:When this version is going to be marked stable on steam? On steam the stable version is still 0.16.36.
So am I lying or blind to see which version is stable?Zavian wrote:0.16.51 is already marked as stable on Steam.Liono2010 wrote:When this version is going to be marked stable on steam? On steam the stable version is still 0.16.36.
The screenshots you posted don't matter. What matters if you select "NONE - Opt out of all beta programs", the game will say it is 0.16.51 in its About dialog in menu.Liono2010 wrote:My system has been restarted several times and still the game hasn't been updated. Does your list of factorio versions (in steam) displays 0.16.51 as experiment or is it stable? Can you please upload a screen shot of the same screen as I did?
Neither, but there is surely something wrong.Liono2010 wrote:
So am I lying or blind to see which version is stable?
Well, I think you are right. Now I have checked in game about dialog, and it says 0.16.51. And also the label of 0.16.51 has been updated as you said. Now everything looks okay. But I am not sure my game was already updated to 51 or it updated today.posila wrote:The screenshots you posted don't matter. What matters if you select "NONE - Opt out of all beta programs", the game will say it is 0.16.51 in its About dialog in menu.Liono2010 wrote:My system has been restarted several times and still the game hasn't been updated. Does your list of factorio versions (in steam) displays 0.16.51 as experiment or is it stable? Can you please upload a screen shot of the same screen as I did?
i also like this idea, either with a generic car battery shape or like one of those orange thin motorcycle batteries like this oneAeternus wrote:Why not change the icon to that of a car battery? A cube-y shape fits the industrial motif better anyway, does it not?
Pretty sure this is actually nonsense, as others have said in previous posts, obviously Factorio is not competing with Duracell, but that's not the issue, the issue is that Factorio using the copper+black design to mean "battery" instead of "Duracell battery" is something which threatens their trademark, therefore they have to challenge it as a matter of course to keep their trademark.Trblz wrote:Right, as you (Factorio) are not competing in the battery market, or advertising in such way that it might cause confusion with customers, you are not infringing in the Duracell TM. Neither is Factorio using the battery icon or the iconic energizer bunny in any way in advertisement or commercial products. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_infringement for more detials.Loewchen wrote:The fact that Duracell has an interest to prevent trademark dilution does not get them legally anywhere though. You do not compete in the same market, you do not mislead others into believing you are affiliated with Duracell. You produce a product of art and are exercising your right to nominatively use another companies trademark in a minimalistic way the same way a movie shows a BMW on the street or the protagonist to drink Coka Cola.posila wrote:....
They did not send you an email instead of suing because they are nice, the did it because you were not infringing their mark and they know it (all imo).
I actually see the original battery in game as a SLA battery, and change the recipe in my mod to take lead plates.kevmert wrote:i also like this idea, either with a generic car battery shape or like one of those orange thin motorcycle batteries like this oneAeternus wrote:Why not change the icon to that of a car battery? A cube-y shape fits the industrial motif better anyway, does it not?
but at the usual factorio item angle so its front is facing bottom left and its leaning to the top right so items can look like they stack up to each other while compressed on a belt
And Coca Cola and BMW had to pay for the privilege, it's called product placement and it helps pad the budget of the movie. It's also why you see Beats headphones in every music video these days.ikarikeiji wrote:Pretty sure this is actually nonsense, as others have said in previous posts, obviously Factorio is not competing with Duracell, but that's not the issue, the issue is that Factorio using the copper+black design to mean "battery" instead of "Duracell battery" is something which threatens their trademark, therefore they have to challenge it as a matter of course to keep their trademark.Trblz wrote:Right, as you (Factorio) are not competing in the battery market, or advertising in such way that it might cause confusion with customers, you are not infringing in the Duracell TM. Neither is Factorio using the battery icon or the iconic energizer bunny in any way in advertisement or commercial products. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_infringement for more detials.Loewchen wrote:The fact that Duracell has an interest to prevent trademark dilution does not get them legally anywhere though. You do not compete in the same market, you do not mislead others into believing you are affiliated with Duracell. You produce a product of art and are exercising your right to nominatively use another companies trademark in a minimalistic way the same way a movie shows a BMW on the street or the protagonist to drink Coka Cola.posila wrote:....
They did not send you an email instead of suing because they are nice, the did it because you were not infringing their mark and they know it (all imo).
I'm with the devs on this one, they were right to change it. If you miss the old design, well that's what mods are for! (Though I imagine a mod to revert the design would probably not be allowed on mod portal for the same reason, but one can always mod it in yourself for your own personal use.)
@Loewchen nobody has a "right" to use another company's trademark. You only see product names like BMW or Coca Cola in movies because BMW or Coca Cola have agreed to their names being used in the movies.
If you're a multinational battery manufacurer you don't sponser a game about genocide and enviromental destruction.mmhvd wrote:Why not have Duracell sponsor the game, and have the battery item look like a Duracell battery? Just call it a "DuraCell"...
eradicator wrote:If you're a multinational battery manufacurer you don't sponser a game about genocide and enviromental destruction.mmhvd wrote:Why not have Duracell sponsor the game [...]
Or to say it with movies: Only the good guys drink PepsiCola©®☮™.
Yeah, and you use the energy to do what? Make the planet to a better place for whom?4xel wrote:And battery is used in accumulators, which are used to optimize energy production, mainly along solar panels, which are as green as it gets in terms of enrgy production in this game.
That damn bitter terrorists are camping on our oil! So guess what the energy will be used for... Depleted uranium rounds and nukes of course!rldml wrote:Yeah, and you use the energy to do what? Make the planet to a better place for whom?4xel wrote:And battery is used in accumulators, which are used to optimize energy production, mainly along solar panels, which are as green as it gets in terms of enrgy production in this game.