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Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:44 pm
by Blacksmoke16
Is it just me or does it seem strange you do not need an artillery turret to build an artillery wagon?

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:47 pm
by bobucles
found a treat not listed in the notes, nuclear fuel for cars/tanks/trains 1.21GJ 250% acceleration
Great scott!
Looks like the major features are
- Stacks to 1 (55% inventory fuel capacity compared to rocket fuel)
- 115% top speed (same as rocket fuel)
- 250% acceleration (big train boost)
- Stick it in a boiler like any other fuel (nuclear pollution yay!)
- No Prod3s, not an intermediate product (?????)
- TOO FAST (player vehicle braking research when? :D )

One thing I noticed is that white science is nowhere to be found in the crafting menu. Technically its ingredients are rocket + satellite and it's made in the silo. With all the good things getting polished up, I guess this was worth a mention.

Oh and no more landfill cheating anymore. Seablock early game is going to need some rebalancing.

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:03 pm
by donderstraal
Thank you guys very much.

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:08 pm
by V453000
Blacksmoke16 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem strange you do not need an artillery turret to build an artillery wagon?
fuck I wanted to do that

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:17 pm
by keyboardhack
This is awesome. Got a ~25% perf boost :D
Time to blow up biters in real time!

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:19 pm
by Deadly-Bagel
Blacksmoke16 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem strange you do not need an artillery turret to build an artillery wagon?
I still don't see any advantage whatsoever to this being on a wagon instead of static =/ just seems like a pain that if you want one permanently planted in an outpost it still needs to be on rails.

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:22 pm
by torham
Deadly-Bagel wrote:
Blacksmoke16 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem strange you do not need an artillery turret to build an artillery wagon?
I still don't see any advantage whatsoever to this being on a wagon instead of static =/ just seems like a pain that if you want one permanently planted in an outpost it still needs to be on rails.
There are 2 versions of artillery. Static turret and a mobile artillery wagon.

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:22 pm
by BenSeidel
V453000 wrote:fuck I wanted to do that
Amen to that... in every conceivable scenario.

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:23 pm
by JulianSkies
Blacksmoke16 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem strange you do not need an artillery turret to build an artillery wagon?
Not really? The Artillery Wagon recipe has all the same item requirements except less gears and no concrete and instead pipe and engines, because it's not being anchored into the ground into but into a moving wagon.
So basically building the turret is part of the recipe already!
Also rail cannons are built somewhat differently from turret artillery, I believe.

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:25 pm
by Serenity
Is it me or was water generation changed? Setting it to something like "frequency - low, size - big" generated big continents separated by large oceans, but connected by a few land bridges. Now you just get masses of lakes :(

very low, very large comes closer to what it used to be, but is noticeably different too. You get large bodies of water, but the land outside the starting area is pretty small and broken up. There are even islands

Also, about uranium. It can still be generated right outside the starting area, so you don't necessarily have to go far

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:59 pm
by bobucles
A few quick notes on artillery shells:

- The inventory item stacks to 1 and inserters will thus only move one shell at a time. It is more inventory efficient to load up ingredients and assemble on site.
- The stationary gun stores 15 shells and will auto load up to 5 shells.
- Artillery trains store up to 100 ammo. Don't hold back.
- Wagons will not attempt to fire on the move and their guns will park when the train moves.
- Ammo is not shared between guns or cargo wagons (but they only hold 40 ammo anyway, build more guns!).
- The targeting remote will show a count of how many guns are in range.
- Artillery has no damage bonuses, not that you really need it.
- Artillery shells can fire into the fog of war and will scout it.
- Range research boosts both automatic range and maximum range. Maximum range is SCARY.

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:18 pm
by Hunterz
Does not working under Linux. Loading game stuck at 2%

Console log:

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0.000 2017-12-13 19:16:12; Factorio 0.16.0 (build 34159, linux64, alpha)
   0.017 Operating system: Linux (Fedora 27)
   0.017 Program arguments: "bin/x64/factorio" "--video-memory-usage" "low" "--disable-audio" "--graphics-quality" "low" 
   0.017 Read data path: /home/hunterz/factorio/data
   0.017 Write data path: /home/hunterz/factorio [119368/907149MB]
   0.017 Binaries path: /home/hunterz/factorio/bin
   0.024 System info: [CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4510U CPU @ 2.00GHz, 4 cores, RAM: 7879MB]
   0.024 Display options: [FullScreen: 1] [VSync: 1] [UIScale: system (100.0%)] [MultiSampling: OFF] [Screen: 255] [Lang: en]
   0.024 Available display adapters: 2
   0.024  [0]: resolution 1920x1080px at [0,0]
   0.024  [1]: resolution 1920x1080px at [1920,0]
   0.024 Create display on adapter 0. Size 1280x720 at position [310, 162].
   0.340 Initialised OpenGL:[0] GeForce 840M/PCIe/SSE2; driver: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 384.98
   0.340   Video memory size (dedicated/total available/current available): 4096/4096/4011 MB
   0.368 Audio is disabled
   0.368 Graphics settings preset: very-high
   0.368 Graphics options: [Graphics quality: low] [Video memory usage: low] [Light scale: 25%] [DXT: false] [Shader: 1]
   0.368                   [Parallel sprite loading: 1] [Max texture size: 0/8192] [Bmp cache: 0] [Sprite slicing: 1] [Low quality rotation: 0]
   0.684 Loading mod core 0.0.0 (data.lua)
*** Error in `bin/x64/factorio': free(): invalid pointer: 0x00000000018b8160 ***
*** Error in `bin/x64/factorio': free(): invalid pointer: 0x000000000188e400 ***
*** Error in `bin/x64/factorio': free(): invalid pointer: 0x000000000188e400 ***
*** Error in `bin/x64/factorio': free(): invalid pointer: 0x000000000188e400 ***
*** Error in `bin/x64/factorio': free(): invalid pointer: 0x000000000188e400 ***
*** Error in `bin/x64/factorio': free(): invalid pointer: 0x000000000188e400 ***
*** Error in `bin/x64/factorio': free(): invalid pointer: 0x000000000188e400 ***

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:18 pm
by warmadmax
Use the mobile artillery to ferry the arty shells, you can unload them using an inserter

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:20 pm
by stretch611
Christmas came early!!!

Thanks Wube!

Now, I just can't wait for my other package under the tree... a t-shirt!!! (I wonder how long it takes to ship one from Prague to the US)

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:39 pm
by nakran
Same crash using Linux here:

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   0.000 2017-12-13 19:33:36; Factorio 0.16.0 (build 34159, linux64, steam)
   0.141 Operating system: Linux (Devuan 1.0)
   0.141 Program arguments: "/mnt/storage/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Factorio/bin/x64/factorio" 
   0.141 Read data path: /mnt/storage/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Factorio/data
   0.141 Write data path: /home/gysas/.factorio [35165/115150MB]
   0.141 Binaries path: /mnt/storage/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Factorio/bin
   0.155 System info: [CPU:        Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 8 cores, RAM: 32190MB]
   0.157 Display options: [FullScreen: 1] [VSync: 1] [UIScale: system (100.0%)] [MultiSampling: OFF] [Screen: 1] [Lang: en]
   0.243 Available display adapters: 3
   0.243  [0]: resolution 1920x1080px at [3840,0]
   0.243  [1]: resolution 1920x1080px at [1920,0]
   0.244  [2]: resolution 1920x1080px at [0,0]
   0.244 Create display on adapter 1. Size 1280x720 at position [310, 162].
   0.545 Initialised OpenGL:[1] GeForce GTX 680/PCIe/SSE2; driver: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 375.82
   0.545   Video memory size (dedicated/total available/current available): 2048/2048/1517 MB
   0.579 Graphics settings preset: high
   0.580 Graphics options: [Graphics quality: normal] [Video memory usage: high] [Light scale: 25%] [DXT: false] [Shader: 1]
   0.580                   [Parallel sprite loading: 1] [Max texture size: 2048/8192] [Bmp cache: 0] [Sprite slicing: 1] [Low quality rotation: 0]
   0.634 Loading mod core 0.0.0 (data.lua)
Factorio crashed. Generating symbolized stacktrace, please wait ...

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:57 pm
by zeus86
edit:
fresh 0.16.0-copy starts on linux, but once started it turns out this seems to be a copy of 0.14.22

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zeus@workstation:~/bin/factorio-0.16.0/bin/x64$ ./factorio 
   0.000 2017-12-13 19:55:10; Factorio 0.14.22 (build 25342, linux64, alpha)
   0.068 Operating system: Linux (Ubuntu 16.04)
   0.069 Program arguments: "./factorio" 
...
  22.297 Info Updater.cpp:749: Downloading https://updater.factorio.com/get-available-versions?username=zeus86&token=<private>&apiVersion=2
  33.304 Info Updater.cpp:759: Download failed (Timeout was reached -- Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds)
  33.379 Factorio initialised
 261.800 Error FileUtil.cpp:284: Can't remove /home/zeus/bin/factorio-0.16.0/temp/currently-playing: No such file or directory
 261.887 Info Scenario.cpp:152: Map version 0.14.22-0
...
after enabling experimental updates and restarting the game it also want to update from 0.14.22 to 0.16.0.
now i'm totally confused...

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:15 pm
by Zavian
The linux build is buggy. (It has already been reported multiple times in the bug report forum). It should be fixed for 0.16.1

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:13 pm
by ZombieMooose
Idk if this was intended, but I can't seem to find the options of not using crafting groups and such.

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:17 pm
by Koub
This is not a "bug report" thread. It's a release thread. If you experience technical issues, please have a look in the Technical Help and Bug report sections, and post if your issue is unknown.

Re: Version 0.16.0

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:22 pm
by bobingabout
I'm honestly not ready to work on updating my mods, however, after a few quick fixes, I'm yet to find a loading error that isn't "icon_size" not found.

It's annoying, but if that's the only error I encounter, I'll be happy.

Edit: I take it back, Autoplace controls complained to me about category tag not set.... still an easy fix.