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I seem to have some intermittent slowdowns that weren't happening before. Every so often, the game will slow down to about half speed for a second. I'm playing the same save as before, when this didn't happen. Also, before, my factory was running at full tilt. Right now, when these slowdowns are happening, I'm reworking my furnaces, and so the entire factory is at a stand-still.

posila wrote:EDIT: Actually we have issues with OpenGL occasionally too. On some Mac computers it claims 16k texture is supported, but when the game tries to use it, OpenGL crashes the game.

Does that bug crash the game early on or after about an hour? Reason I ask is that I have a few Mac games that seem to crash about an hour in to gameplay and the devs of those games don't seem to be finding any solutions any time soon.

aubergine18 wrote:Does that bug crash the game early on or after about an hour? Reason I ask is that I have a few Mac games that seem to crash about an hour in to gameplay and the devs of those games don't seem to be finding any solutions any time soon.

In our case it crashes during startup. Is Factorio one of those games?

AssaultRaven wrote:I seem to have some intermittent slowdowns that weren't happening before. Every so often, the game will slow down to about half speed for a second. I'm playing the same save as before, when this didn't happen. Also, before, my factory was running at full tilt. Right now, when these slowdowns are happening, I'm reworking my furnaces, and so the entire factory is at a stand-still.

I think it is just coincidence your save got slower after the update, but it is still strange that it would slow down while your factory stopped. Can you share the save?

posila wrote:In our case it crashes during startup. Is Factorio one of those games?

Yes, Factorio was borking for me but your team pointed me to a fix within a matter of hours of reporting it; specifically adding `--max-texture-size=4096` (yes, my gfx card is that old) to launch parameters in Steam and I've never had problem since.

I suspect other game suffer from similar problems, but sadly their devs/support are nothing in comparison to what you at Wube achieve on a constant basis.

posila wrote:

AssaultRaven wrote:I seem to have some intermittent slowdowns that weren't happening before. Every so often, the game will slow down to about half speed for a second. I'm playing the same save as before, when this didn't happen. Also, before, my factory was running at full tilt. Right now, when these slowdowns are happening, I'm reworking my furnaces, and so the entire factory is at a stand-still.

I think it is just coincidence your save got slower after the update, but it is still strange that it would slow down while your factory stopped. Can you share the save?

This is the save. Normally it runs at a solid 60/60, but sometimes drops to 40 for a second before picking back up. It seems to be completely random, and the factory is almost halted again because of all iron mines being exhausted at the moment. It wasn't doing this before, despite the factory already being at the point where it was launching rockets.

Seems to have gone away, even with the factory in high production. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Since this update my Power Rail mod cause an error when i deconstruct a part of the track...

Xenomorph wrote:Since this update my Power Rail mod cause an error when i deconstruct a part of the track...

That has nothing to do with the update. We didn't change anything that would cause mod related errors so what ever error you're getting exists in 0.14.21 as well.

I am playing with 1 other person. I am hosting the game on an i7, GTX 1070, 12GB of RAM system. The other person is geographically about 50 miles away from me and ping between us is 6ms or so.

After a while (maybe 10 hours into our play) the person started having lag spikes every 5 seconds or so. They are on an i7 GTX 970 16GB ram. On my end I see the progress bar in the top left appear that they are going to be disconnected for a few seconds then it recovers.

This issue was there on 0.14.21 as well (I am not sure about before since we just got the game a few months ago).

What solved it is setting "minimum_multiplayer_latency" in the cfg file to 30. (I havent tried lower settings).

My guess is that the game does automatic latency calculation and in our case since we are so close it must be calculating very low latency, but then if there is a spike on one of the hops it makes the game stutter, but forcing latency to be higher at all times alleviates this?

This isnt a huge issue since there is a workaround, but I thought Id point it out in case there is something on your end you can look at / fix. Also is it possible to add a slider or numberical value box in the game menus so that one doesnt have to navigate to the cfg file to change this? By the way when this is happening on my side (host) there are no issues at all.

The only issue with forced increased latency my friend said that controlling vehicles is harder as it keeps turning a little past where you let go of the left/right button, so you have to under compensate. Strange that it would be noticeable at 30ms.

Duxa wrote:I am playing with 1 other person. I am hosting the game on an i7, GTX 1070, 12GB of RAM system. The other person is geographically about 50 miles away from me and ping between us is 6ms or so.

After a while (maybe 10 hours into our play) the person started having lag spikes every 5 seconds or so. They are on an i7 GTX 970 16GB ram. On my end I see the progress bar in the top left appear that they are going to be disconnected for a few seconds then it recovers.

This issue was there on 0.14.21 as well (I am not sure about before since we just got the game a few months ago).

What solved it is setting "minimum_multiplayer_latency" in the cfg file to 30. (I havent tried lower settings).

My guess is that the game does automatic latency calculation and in our case since we are so close it must be calculating very low latency, but then if there is a spike on one of the hops it makes the game stutter, but forcing latency to be higher at all times alleviates this?

This isnt a huge issue since there is a workaround, but I thought Id point it out in case there is something on your end you can look at / fix. Also is it possible to add a slider or numberical value box in the game menus so that one doesnt have to navigate to the cfg file to change this? By the way when this is happening on my side (host) there are no issues at all.

The only issue with forced increased latency my friend said that controlling vehicles is harder as it keeps turning a little past where you let go of the left/right button, so you have to under compensate. Strange that it would be noticeable at 30ms.

The latency setting is fixed in 0.15, and there is some plan to add car driving to the latency state in the future

Duxa wrote:The only issue with forced increased latency my friend said that controlling vehicles is harder as it keeps turning a little past where you let go of the left/right button, so you have to under compensate. Strange that it would be noticeable at 30ms.

A minium latency setting of 30 is not "30 ms" but "30 ticks" which is 30 * 16.66~ or 500 ms.

Rseding91 wrote:A minium latency setting of 30 is not "30 ms" but "30 ticks" which is 30 * 16.66~ or 500 ms.

That is very confusing, every other game measures latency in milliseconds.

DaveMcW wrote:

Rseding91 wrote:A minium latency setting of 30 is not "30 ms" but "30 ticks" which is 30 * 16.66~ or 500 ms.

That is very confusing, every other game measures latency in milliseconds.

But Factorio is not every other game.

kinnom wrote:

DaveMcW wrote:

Rseding91 wrote:A minium latency setting of 30 is not "30 ms" but "30 ticks" which is 30 * 16.66~ or 500 ms.

That is very confusing, every other game measures latency in milliseconds.

But Factorio is not every other game.

Which means it should come with a description. If something differs from the expected norm, you need to make people aware.

DaveMcW wrote:

Rseding91 wrote:A minium latency setting of 30 is not "30 ms" but "30 ticks" which is 30 * 16.66~ or 500 ms.

That is very confusing, every other game measures latency in milliseconds.

It was called minimum_latency_in_ticks when introduced for headless servers.

I remember back in 0.11, you had to specify your expected latency in milliseconds.