[0.18.28] The game just crashes

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[0.18.28] The game just crashes

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I understand perfectly well that this post cannot be a message about any error.
Dip it just by the cry of the soul. I am crying. :cry: :cry:
The game loads, works, and then simply collapses and crashes to the desktop. No matter how it was.
Therefore, I can not provide any logs.
Over the past three days, the game crashed a dozen times.
The previous version I had was 0.18.21 - there were no problems.
Just now I launched it again.
Let's see how much is enough.
I am sad. I will wait for the next version.
Or roll back to 0.18.21: ((
At the next departure I will try to supplement this post.

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azesmbog wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 2:33 pm
The game loads, works, and then simply collapses and crashes to the desktop. No matter how it was.
Therefore, I can not provide any logs.
That makes no sense.

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azesmbog wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 2:33 pm
The game loads, works, and then simply collapses and crashes to the desktop. No matter how it was.
Therefore, I can not provide any logs.
Whenever the game begins to start up, it starts writing into the log file. → https://wiki.factorio.com/Log_file
This file is normally populated with a lot of meta information about your system – even before the game starts to draw anything on the screen.

As Loewchen said, your statement contradicts this very basic principle. Are you 100% sure there is no log file when the game starts up?

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Re: [0.18.28] The game just crashes

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I apologize. Translation difficulties.
The log is, the last boot, or save.
But what will the log give if the game crashes in an hour or two ??
By the time between version changes, I played 24 hours of progress. Which I will lose if I return to the .21 version.
During these 24 hours, the game crashed a dozen times.
Yabyv did not write if he hung or flew one or two times. But 10 is a bit much, isn't it ??
And on the .21 version, I played for several weeks without a single crash. And here it just crashes without declaring war.
I don’t know what the log can give you when the game works as if nothing had happened.
During the crash, no logs are created.
You understand that this is not my first year playing this game.
I haven’t set any new programs in the last year, the configuration of iron has not changed,
but nevertheless .21 version worked without excesses, and .28 crashes out of the blue ??
.28 version has become more aggressive with memory? That the same has changed)
Or is my game limit over? :))

I am not complaining, I will patiently wait for the next version.
Well, or I'll be back 24 hours ago, although this is insulting.
I am also a little programmer, and I understand how stupid it sounds, but nonetheless.
Just a cry from the soul.
By the way, during this time the game did not crash, and was normally preserved. Saves after 30 minutes of the game are on.
Thank you for the attention.

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Not long the music played ...
Attached two logs.
The game still crashed again.
The last recording was carried out at 5h 25 minutes in the morning. This means that 12 hours from the moment of launch, it still worked continuously.
This is very small :(
I don’t know what can be seen as suspicious in the log when everything is already normal ....
For comparison, I attached the previous log from the .21 version, the previous one on which I played.
It shows the same thing, but even more records, of course successful.
Mon assumption: Either your game each time becomes an increasingly sophisticated memory test, or I no longer have sound assumptions :)
I’ll start now and again 0.18.21 version, look at its uptime.
Sad :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Check the OS system event list at time of the crash.

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Re: [0.18.28] The game just crashes

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Just having a look in his log file.

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20.751 Loading map F:\Games\Factorio_0.18.28\saves\_autosave2.zip: 2645659023 bytes.
20.774 Loading level.dat: 6482668896 bytes.
So that save file is 2.64 Gb and Level is 6.48 Gb.

I've not seen a non-modded game have a save file that huge?

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TreefrogGreaken wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:04 pm
I've not seen a non-modded game have a save file that huge?
You might think that modden games have seen this size :)

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. (c)

In the attachment, the log for today on 0.18.21 version, at least 12 hours, the game was launched and half of that time I definitely played it, built it.
As you can see - there were no sorties, the most common log, 13 save in 12 hours.
It was me who started the game to save this log.
Of course, I lost a lot of hours of progress, but here I have to choose - either the old, but the working version, or the new and last one, which works correctly for everyone except me.
Loewchen wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:48 pm
Check the OS system event list at time of the crash.
Log-s in Windows are also clean, I see no problems.
Any more practical thoughts?)))
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azesmbog wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:18 pm
Loewchen wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:48 pm
Check the OS system event list at time of the crash.
Log-s in Windows are also clean, I see no problems.
No clue what clean means, the os will log why the process terminated, so post the entry please.

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Loewchen wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:33 pm
No clue what clean means, the os will log why the process terminated, so post the entry please.
And I have no idea why you have no idea that this is not a server system or Linux with your sudo, which everyone snoops on.
This is a regular Windows7, which by default does not log the processes of starting and stopping third-party applications. Read the documentation for Windows carefully.
But this can be further included in the security policy. Which I did.
So.
Creation of the process - 06/01/2020 23:33:33
The completion of the process - 06/02/2020 13:39:25
Note that the regular completion of the process, but of course I did not, this is your game decided to turn off! herself!!
And it creates the log ONLY when it is turned off, which means it has ended normally from its own motives and recorded the log.
I hope nothing interesting in the log, but I will attach it too.
And yes, the last entry was at 13:23,
and until the next recording another 20 minutes remained.
And version 0.18.21 did not behave inappropriately.
So check and checkmate to you.
Should I download the next version or will I still have thoughts?
Upd:
Took a screenshot of the audit page
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I'm not a Windows specialist
but I think the code 0xc000005 is not quite the correct output ??
Would it be more logical to 0x0?
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I understand very well that my problem has no solution.
Well, to completely close the topic.
In the attachment, plus five more logs.
And .28 version, and .30, and .31 too.
In any of the logs it can be seen that before the crash / crash the game works for a long time, 6-12-24 hours each. But sooner or later, crash.
I admit (with little probability :) that the RAM is to blame. Just do not advise me how to check it correctly, what and where, and what should be the timings.
Suppose I know all this perfectly and understand.
I tried to increase the timings and reduce the frequency, in the logs you can probably see the difference.
Well, of course I can set the memory frequency to 2133 and watch a slide show. Thanks for the future advice.
Well, or continue to suffer and torture with intermittent crashes.
And so - thanks for the game. I am waiting for the next version to test stability on MY! computer :)
Close the topic.
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So Factorio try to access memory address equal to null (0x0). That is weird. Does it happen with different maps or just with this one? If error happen only with one map, could you provide it?

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