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Really, this is just an excuse to plug Iain M Banks, but The Player of Games is pretty good (as are all of his novels). Glass Bead Game (Hermann Hesse), too, though not sure if it strictly can be considered sci fi.
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Consider Phlebas and Excession are even better:)
also:Martha Wells Murderbot series.

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Consider Phlebas is very good, probably in my top 4 or 5. I felt at the end it started to drift into bloatware a bit. Iain has a hard time killing his darlings :)

Use of Weapons, the Algebraist (not culture?) and Player of Games are probably my top 3. Use of Weapons way out in front.

Excession was also really great, anytime you get the minds as major characters, makes for great reading.

HOnestly, though, they are all pure gold. If you like SciFi and haven't read his stuff, you truly are missing out IMHO.

The truly great thing about his books, at least for me, is you can re-read them probably 3 or 4 times and still find things you've missed. Very very dense prose. It's a real joy being able to revisit a novel like that when you enjoyed it so much the first time.

Will check out Murderbot. Hugo award winner!
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Cryptonomicon (Neal Stephenson) is one of my all-time favorites i think really blew my mind that one.
Anathema and Seveneves also very likable. (and Looong:))

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I've heard good things about it. I should give him another try. I was pretty disappointed by Reamde, the only one I read in full. American taliban on the washington usd/cad border? Uhm, no. It all rang pretty artificial to me. Snowcrash wasn't to my liking either, tbh, I had to give up about half way through. The characters just seemed too cartoonish. I much prefer Vernor Vinge or Gibson for that material.

Stephenson has good ideas though, I'll give him that.
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My all time favourite is the Dune cycle by Franck Herbert.
The trilogy of Ā by A. E. Van Vogt is also in my top tier SF books, along with the Foundation cycle by Isaac Asimov.
Ender's game by Orson Scott Card is also very high on my list (the first book of a whole cycle, but imho way above the following books, can be read in standalone).

Yeah I'm an old guy with old school tastes :).

Technically, The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy by Douglas Adams is sci fi, though heavily tilted towards the comedy side. If I was asked to describe the British humour, I would tell to read these books and watch the Monty Pythons.
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Ah Koub.....
Null-A , you mean? I read that as teen, and it was awesome indeed. not aged well, though.
Theodore Sturgeon (More than Human) and Alfred Bester (Tiger, tiger) anyone?


And Arthur C. Clarke.
And John Varley
And Ursula LeGuin.
Wow, This is opening up a big bag of book reading memories:)

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disentius wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:52 pm
Theodore Sturgeon (More than Human) [...] anyone?
Indeed :)
disentius wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:52 pm
And Ursula LeGuin.
Oh yes, but I didn't know she had written sci-fi, the only thing she wrote than I've read is the awesome Earthsea (but it's fantasy).
[Edit] On second thought, I recall reading the world of Rocannon, but I was a kid so it had slipped out of my mind.
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Ahhhhh thats a thread worth of reading …..
Albeit some are mentioned but as I love reading SF I want to add my share

The Dune-Cycle is a very rich and good read (though I needed two tries to get started, but it was well worth if you get into) and I can never understand why the first movie got so bad receptions……

Storys of Clarke were never a bad selection for some reading.

Orson Scott Cards Enders-Game and following books are also very good ( the movie is a somewhat good representation of the book in the given short time of a movie, but for me it really took of with the ‘speaker of Trees’, this not really being a hard SF, but for its topic its superb ( so after this read I totally recline the StarTrek-do-not-interfere-directive because of obvious reasons)

Children of Time and Children of Ruin of Tchaikovsky, a very good read and a mixture of biology and hard SF endtimes

And yeah Cryptonomicion of Stephenson should of everybodys list of SF and IT reader, it gives you the best understanding of Information-processing down to the very principle
Also from him the ‘baroque-cycle’ leans in this direction, thougth more in an historian setting and more of telling about the times then..

Daemon of Daniel Suarez is somewhat rooted in the now, but I count it as SF, even if its very well thinkable; one of the books which I read straight over a weekend…., gives you thought about the information age…..

Latest I want to say is Semiosis, Sue Burke, also not really hard SF, but also very interesting living in a strange environment

A small speedy Book : Accelerando of Charles Stross will you show a different way of leaving the planet, which we all try in factorio…….

Liu, Cixin Three Body Problem books, somewhat hype recent, but also i found it justified and it was a very well read, somelike endtimes of humanity


After all this hart and unforgiving reads the Hitchhickers guide trilogy of 4 books is a very good contrast program


So I must confess I am also an older guy with some special taste, I like it when there is a interesting pretense/setup well played out, which gives me some thoughts on this matter…..

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Koub wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:01 pm
My all time favourite is the Dune cycle by Franck Herbert.
The trilogy of Ā by A. E. Van Vogt is also in my top tier SF books, along with the Foundation cycle by Isaac Asimov.
Ender's game by Orson Scott Card is also very high on my list (the first book of a whole cycle, but imho way above the following books, can be read in standalone).

Yeah I'm an old guy with old school tastes :).

Technically, The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy by Douglas Adams is sci fi, though heavily tilted towards the comedy side. If I was asked to describe the British humour, I would tell to read these books and watch the Monty Pythons.
Yes, those are the classics for sure. Tho I haven't read vogt. Vonnegut, who I truly adore, but not vogt. Clarke is sci fi 101, there is depth in his work similar to Banks. Banks will always be my favorite, tho. Most sci fi just seemed to pale after I read him.

I confess I liked RPO, however. A guilty pleasure. The audiobook version via Wil Wheaton. His voice acting I think lent a certain deeper and definitely more entertaining dimension that the novel would have lacked without it.

But not the movie, which felt like someone nagged Spielberg to do fan fic until he finally gave in because he owns a studio. And then spielberg quickly realized none of it made sense as a movie, so he just threw it all out and rewrote it from scratch. Yes, I was a bit dissapointed.
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