[Done] Evolution Factors Display

[TheSAguy]

Hi,

There are 3 things that affect evolution, Time, Base Destruction and Pollution (In Vanilla)

I’d like to get a way to show the amount of evolution added by each of these factors.

Would that be possible?

Thanks

[Hiladdar]

Console command of /evolution gives you that information.

So probably a rather sort of mod that performs performs this console command say once every 60+ ticks, stores the result in variable, and displays the result someplace on the screen, similar to how some of the clock based mods which display the time would do it.

Hiladdar

[steinio]

EvoGUI is made for that; https://mods.factorio.com/mod/EvoGUI

But as the OP states (s)he plays vanilla there is no way to show the partial amount of each evolution factor.

[TheSAguy]

Console command of /evolution gives you that information.

So probably a rather sort of mod that performs performs this console command say once every 60+ ticks, stores the result in variable, and displays the result someplace on the screen, similar to how some of the clock based mods which display the time would do it.

Hiladdar

I know the command to show the combined evolution factor, but not the split out values.

EvoGUI is made for that; https://mods.factorio.com/mod/EvoGUI

But as the OP states (s)he plays vanilla there is no way to show the partial amount of each evolution factor.

I had a typo in my OP. I meant "In Vanilla", since there are mods that tweak the formula a bit. I'm actually using Next Gen Evolution that increases evolution from pollution only when absorbed.

I agree EvoGUI is perfect. It just needs the values split by type.

[darkfrei]

Hi,

There are 3 things that affect evolution, Time, Base Destruction and Pollution (In Vanilla)

I’d like to get a way to show the amount of evolution added by each of these factors.

Would that be possible?

Thanks

I've made this display for Evo, but this thing is for normal evolution only. But it's not too complicated to adapt the code for more than one evolution factor or whatever.

[Qon]

Console command of /evolution gives you that information.

I know the command to show the combined evolution factor, but not the split out values.

When was the last time you tried /evolution?

[Qon]

You were talking about the vanilla factors, but you are using my mod Next Gen Evolution. So is this for another world without NGE or?
Because since NGE changes the evolution number directly the /evolution command shows the split factors just for how the game thinks it was calculated based on what it has done to evolution. Which means the splitted factors will show incorrect values for how the evolution was reached. That's just for the displayed splitted values though, the combined evolution factor is still calculated correctly.

[AlFara]

for vanilla:


-get total evolution:

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game.forces.enemy.evolution_factor

will give you the total evolution factor.


-get map settings:

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game.map_settings.enemy_evolution.time_factor

will give you the map settings's time factor.

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game.map_settings.enemy_evolution.destroy_factor

will give you the map settings's destroy factor.

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game.map_settings.enemy_evolution.pollution_factor

will give you the map settings's pollution factor.


-get required information:

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game.tick

will give u the number of ticks the round is running (edit: not sure about MP here)

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game.player.force.kill_count_statistics.get_input_count('big-worm-turret')

will tell you how many big worms the 'force' killed. also works for

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game.player.force.kill_count_statistics.get_input_count('biter-spawner')

and tells you how many biter spawners the force has killed and so on.


idk how to get the pollution factor, the probably inefficient idea would be like

total_evolution-ticks*map_timed_evolution-all_nest_kills_by_all_forces_added_up*map_destroy_evolution

edit: about modded stuff, technically.... (*as long as total evolution stays below 1)
if the mod adds additional numbers to the pollution counter, it doesn't matter because you know time and destroy.
if the mod adds additional numbers to the time but not pollution counter, easy because you know the ticks and base map settings and you can rely on the pollution statistics not being increased by a mod.
if it adds extra pollution to multiple categories, it might get difficult unless you can get the pollution statistics directly (and not via my complicated method)

[Qon]

idk how to get the pollution factor, the probably inefficient idea would be like

total_evolution-ticks*map_timed_evolution-all_nest_kills_by_all_forces_added_up*map_destroy_evolution

edit: about modded stuff, technically.... (*as long as total evolution stays below 1)
if the mod adds additional numbers to the pollution counter, it doesn't matter because you know time and destroy.
if the mod adds additional numbers to the time but not pollution counter, easy because you know the ticks and base map settings and you can rely on the pollution statistics not being increased by a mod.
if it adds extra pollution to multiple categories, it might get difficult unless you can get the pollution statistics directly (and not via my complicated method)

Pollution is in LuaGame.

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game.pollution_statistics

https://lua-api.factorio.com/latest/Lua ... statistics

evolution_factor is not linear. You don't add the different factors

Computation of actual evolution factor
The actual EF can be computed as follow :

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1 - EF = (1 - E[t]) * (1 - E[p]) * (1 - E[s])

, where E[t], E[p], and E[ s] are the single-component values from the pollution, time, and spawner charts, in that order.

[AlFara]

thanks for the update but how would your command to call it look like? or does "input_counts" yield the correct number?

[Qon]

"input" is the left side which lists the entity outputs.
And "output" is the right side which lists the entity input consumption amounts.

Yes, left is right and right is wrong. I'll go ahead and file a bug report.

My mod Next Gen Evolution uses the pollution statistics and does evolution combination calculations. It uses get_flow_count instead since it needs the values for the last minute instead of all time stats but is the best code example I know of

[AlFara]

tx, i'll take a look into it.

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@Bilka's post below: thanks

[Bilka]

Just a note, OP got their answer here: 71114

[orzelek]

Just a note, OP got their answer here: 71114

That thread doesn't seem to be finished. And example from that thread with all three values doesn't really match formula given above.
We still need some answers

[Bilka]

Just a note, OP got their answer here: 71114

That thread doesn't seem to be finished. And example from that thread with all three values doesn't really match formula given above.
We still need some answers :D

I replied to the other thread.

[Qon]

"input" is the left side which lists the entity outputs.
And "output" is the right side which lists the entity input consumption amounts.

Yes, left is right and right is wrong. I'll go ahead and file a bug report.

"Not a bug"
It's not documented, the words mean the opposite of what my dictionary says they mean for no good reason (at least Rseding91 didn't tell me any reason) and in some places, the meaning flips back again! But now we at least have a soon-to-be-buried bug report to reference...