[0.17.45] (Minor) Auto UI scale suggests bad value

[Zaflis]

I'm using a 1920x1080 desktop monitor and so far used to the Auto (100%) scaling. But it has only been 100% when i used maximized window. When i resize the window even just a couple pixels smaller in width or height, the auto-scaling goes to 75%. Icons go blurry and bad with that.

The workaround was to set scaling to custom (100%), but auto-mode could be made a little smarter some way. I'd suspect it involves getting DPI of monitor, how big the rendered area is in centimeters and determine if it needs scaling or not.

[eradicator]

When i first started up 0.17 i thought "wtf, why does everything look like shit?".
Took me a few minutes to realize it was scaling and set it to fixed 100%.

So +1

[Bilka]

Please provide a log file of a session where it starts and defaults to 75%.

[tehfreek]

Not the OP, but here you go. And a screen capture for further evidence.

[eradicator]

Full HD 16:10 Screen with taskbar on the right side, so window is ~1850*1200.

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   0.000 2019-06-01 09:44:40; Factorio 0.17.42 (build 45100, win64, alpha)
   0.000 Operating system: Windows 8
   0.001 Program arguments: "H:\factorio\instances\[shared-read]\latest\bin\x64\Factorio.exe" "--config" "H:\factorio\instances\devworld.instance\config.ini" "--mod-directory" "H:\factorio\instances\devworld.instance\mods"
   0.001 Read data path: H:/factorio/instances/[shared-read]/latest/data
   0.001 Write data path: H:/factorio/instances/[shared-write] [9519/40959MB]
   0.001 Binaries path: H:/factorio/instances/[shared-read]/latest/bin
   0.008 System info: [CPU:       Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz, 8 cores, RAM: 19667/32606 MB, page: 24280/48606 MB, virtual: 112/8388607 MB, extended virtual: 0 MB]
   0.008 Display options: [FullScreen: 0] [VSync: 0] [UIScale: automatic (100.0%)] [Native DPI: 1] [Screen: 255] [Special: 00] [Lang: en]
   0.011 Available displays: 1
   0.011  [0]: \\.\DISPLAY1 - Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 {0x8000005, [0,0], 1920x1200, 32bit, 60Hz}
   0.072 [Direct3D11] Display: 0, Output: 0, DisplayAdapter: 0, RenderingAdapter: 0; d3dcompiler_43.dll
   0.080 Initialised Direct3D[0]: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000; id: 8086-0166; driver: nvumdshimx.dll 10.18.13.5560
   0.080   D3D Feature Level: 11.0, DXGI 1.2+, SwapChain: 1,discard,-,-,none
   0.081   BGR 565 Supported: Yes
   0.081   MaximumFrameLatency: 3, GPUThreadPriority: 0
   0.167 Desktop composition is active.
   0.167 Graphics settings preset: integrated-gpulow
   0.168   Dedicated video memory size 96 MB
   0.168 Graphics options: [Graphics quality: normal] [Video memory usage: all] [Light scale: 25%] [DXT: low-quality]
   0.168                   [Max load threads: 32] [Max texture size: 4096] [Tex.Stream.: 0] [Rotation quality: low] [Color: 16bit]
   0.178 DSound: Starting _dsound_update thread
   0.178 DSound: Enter _dsound_update; tid=15960
   0.393 Info ModManager.cpp:240: Found duplicate mod alien-biomes, using higher version (0.4.13 > 0.3.10).
   0.448 Info ModManager.cpp:240: Found duplicate mod alien-biomes, using higher version (0.4.14 > 0.4.13).

Edit: While the log says "[UIScale: automatic (100.0%)]" it *does* start up with 75%, so i guess that the log is based on the screen size *before* detecting the actual window size. And it only goes to 100% if i "resize" to full-screen.

[Zaflis]

Logs and screen:

[Twinsen]

The gui is designed for a minimum resolution of 1856x1016.
This should be enough for the most common taskbar locations when playing windowed. You need to play maximized.

If you have a fat taskbar or other obscure situations either
- play fullscreen
- play in 75% UI scale
- manually set GUI scale to 100% but suffer the consequences if some GUI elements overlap.

Previously we were designing the gui for 720p and it was extremely limiting. Then we decided to to design for 1080p which is by far the most common resolution. But then people played in a window. So we decreased the minimum resolution to 1856x1016. If we decrease it any further we are back to designing the gui for 720p

[eradicator]

The gui is designed for a minimum resolution of 1856x1016.

Is that with or without window decorations? I'm at 1838 pixels undecorated width with a double-standard-width vertical taskbar. Haven't had any issues with manual 100% scale so far, was just startled because 0.16 had a different "automatic" value.

Btw..slight topic hijack.... it's good to know that the base game assumes such high resolution. Now i can link this thread if anyone ever complains about my mod guis :D. Is there a list of other such numbers (width of inventory, % height of inventory, etcpp)? Would make making "vanilla like" guis easier.

[Twinsen]

1856x1016 visible rendered game area.

Not really. This is the only number we have. GUI needs to fit correctly and look good on 1856x1016. Expanding areas such as inventories need to have support for scrollbars in case they use up all available space.

This limitation and the problems that happen if it's not respected will be much more obvious when we will release the main game gui layout.

[Zaflis]

Well, inventory window in current game expands WAY TOO MUCH until it shows scrollbars. Anyone who plays Bob's mods and few others can tell how massive it becomes. In general small and compact style is the way i like it the most, just not scaled.

[eradicator]

Well, inventory window in current game expands WAY TOO MUCH until it shows scrollbars. Anyone who plays Bob's mods and few others can tell how massive it becomes. In general small and compact style is the way i like it the most, just not scaled.

Screenspace is there to be used. Forcing the user to navigate tiny windows with scrollbars instead of just showing the whole thing is horrible and frustrating and sould be illegal. I am glad factorio properly streches the inventory when it can.

[Zaflis]

I wasn't asking tiny windows, there is a good middleground between tiny and gigantic. One where you can actually still see the gameworld behind the UI. And from gameplay point of view, it is easier to play when you don't have to move cursor around so much. Scrollwheel is handy.

They could have the max UI size configurable though, because one glove does not fit every hand.

[Deadlock989]

Well, inventory window in current game expands WAY TOO MUCH until it shows scrollbars. Anyone who plays Bob's mods and few others can tell how massive it becomes. In general small and compact style is the way i like it the most, just not scaled.

Maybe those mods shouldn't create such messy crafting tabs.

This is all changing with the incoming UI update anyway.