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[0.7.4] MacBook without external mouse

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:19 am
by ssilk
This evening it raveled by train and after doing some work I wanted to play a bit. But I forgot my mouse. Doesn't matter - I thought - trackpad is also ok. But it isn't. :) for this who don't know: no right mouse button. No middle mouse button. But zooming is ok.

Well, after some configuration fails, I found some solution. But my configuration is radically different, because I needed Ctrl shift and alt. Cmd key is not useable,pressing command while running for example keeps the key pressed, until I press them again. I didn't found out, why a filter in the quickbar can't be set.

If needed I can send my found key-setup. The biggest problem was, that the RMB is used in so many situations, that it is very difficult, to find a combination, which isn't used in another way and blocks the current.

Re: [0.7.4] MacBook without external mouse

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:34 am
by slpwnd
This is not really Factorio bug:)

I use my macbook without an external mouse now and then (yeah usually when travelling) and yes, it is tricky. There is a right mouse click (for me touch with two fingers), however it is clumsy to do. And of course no middle button - so I used alt + click, alt + right click for setting the filters. In general the game is not well playable but it is enough for me for some testing.

Re: [0.7.4] MacBook without external mouse

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:57 am
by SilverWarior
isn't it posible to configure MacBook touchpad to register tapping in left bottom corner as left click and right bottom corner as right click? I have seen such feature on several windows based laptops.

Re: [0.7.4] MacBook without external mouse

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:06 pm
by immerhungrig
it is no problem to use the left bottom corner for left click and right bottom corner for right click.

Re: [0.7.4] MacBook without external mouse

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:20 pm
by MF-
Hehe, my non-apple notebook the touchpad can do these (using only the touchpad surface, no HW buttons or scroll strip):
assign a separate mouse button to each corner.
assign a separate mouse button to 1,2,3-finger taps (3-tap is my current preferred way of doing a middle-click)
perform 2-finger vertical scrolling
Hold any mouse button (1,2,3-tap + quick release + hold)

I am pretty sure that the apple HW can do that too.. It's just that Apple just hid all those options from you. :)

Re: [0.7.4] MacBook without external mouse

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:33 pm
by ssilk
Hi MF-!
Of course it does and I will find a way to work around it. But the point is: is it useable for the potential factorio player?

The problem is, that this game makes much things differently. Most times it's very good :), and sometimes not and for the input I mean not. The hardware-side of games - in this case keyboard/mouse - is very important...

Re: [0.7.4] MacBook without external mouse

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:29 pm
by n9103
Definitely not a Factorio bug, and a bug of a) Apple's crappy form over function approach, and b) PEBCAM ;)

Using input hardware in not so commonly

Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:40 am
by ssilk
:x I didn't speak anymore from Mac alone.
For example, I've keyboards at home which are not able to press more than one key at once (only shift Ctrl etc.)
Try to fetch items from ground with it. And now? Have fun.
Factorio DOES make thinks differently and when coming to hardware/input this will make definitly problems when the target is more players.

We will see in the next months who is right. :twisted:

Re: [0.7.4] MacBook without external mouse

Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 11:23 am
by Arakasi
Thats why MACs are not considered as gaming devices. Guys from Apple have still something to learn from others.
But don't worry, no platform is completely without problems. Nobody and nothing is perfect.

And one small advice for you: don't forget so essential stuff next time :-D

[0.14.11] Command + movement key stays pressed

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:11 pm
by Nomadjackalope
It seems like the game is very playable with a mac now. I just ran into the problem of renaming a train station and so pressing Command + A to select all the text which also made me move to the left constantly and I couldn't figure out why but found the fix here: pressing A again. Should I post this as a new topic as a specific bug for Command + movement keys?

Re: [0.14.11] Command + movement key stays pressed

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:03 pm
by Loewchen
Nomadjackalope wrote:It seems like the game is very playable with a mac now. I just ran into the problem of renaming a train station and so pressing Command + A to select all the text which also made me move to the left constantly and I couldn't figure out why but found the fix here: pressing A again. Should I post this as a new topic as a specific bug for Command + movement keys?
If you can produce this in 14.11 yes. In general, posting in an very old report is not helpful.