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Make spidertron features available for all vehicles

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 9:31 pm
by whitecold
There are several features that currently seem only available for SpiderVehicles, and not for other types of vehicles.
  • The radar capability set by chunk_exploration_radius
  • The autopilot feature set by autopilot_destination
  • The autotargeting settings accessed by vehicle_automatic_targeting_parameters
The first would be nice to have available on all vehicles, including trains.
The other two would be great to have available for tanks and cars to make them automateable.

Also, while it is not yet released, in similar vein it would be great to also have the upcoming spidertron logistics setting available on other vehicles for modding purposes.

Re: Make spidertron features available for all vehicles

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:04 am
by Rseding91
Sorry, but no.

It's already a lot of complexity to make them work in the spidertron when it's purpose built do allow those things.

Re: Make spidertron features available for all vehicles

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:41 am
by EntropySpark
I understand that most of the spidertron features are very spidertron-specific (especially anything related to pathfinding), but can specifically the logistic system interface be made available for all vehicles? I'd really like to make a car that makes its own logistic requests.

Re: Make spidertron features available for all vehicles

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:02 am
by ptx0
Rseding91 wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:04 am
Sorry, but no.

It's already a lot of complexity to make them work in the spidertron when it's purpose built do allow those things.
ouch, poor quality code design.

Re: Make spidertron features available for all vehicles

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:28 am
by EntropySpark
ptx0 wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:02 am
Rseding91 wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:04 am
Sorry, but no.

It's already a lot of complexity to make them work in the spidertron when it's purpose built do allow those things.
ouch, poor quality code design.
You're underestimating the complexity. An autopilot feature for a spidertron, which has total movement flexibility and can step over all obstacles, is trivial compared to an autopilot feature for a car, which would warrant an decent part of a course in robotics algorithms just to find an acceptable and efficient path, assuming one even exists.

Re: Make spidertron features available for all vehicles

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:13 am
by Kyralessa
ptx0 wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:02 am
ouch, poor quality code design.
And what have you written?

Re: Make spidertron features available for all vehicles

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:26 pm
by NotRexButCaesar
Kyralessa wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:13 am
ptx0 wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:02 am
ouch, poor quality code design.
And what have you written?
He is apparently a web developer, so I don’t know if that question will have the desired effect.

Re: Make spidertron features available for all vehicles

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:34 pm
by Kyralessa
AmericanPatriot wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:26 pm
Kyralessa wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:13 am
ptx0 wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:02 am
ouch, poor quality code design.
And what have you written?
He is apparently a web developer, so I don’t know if that question will have the desired effect.
I doubt it would anyhow.

Re: Make spidertron features available for all vehicles

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:00 pm
by Koub
[Koub] The devs have given their stand on this, all further discussion is moot. Locking the thread.