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    type = "technology",
    name = "worker-robots-speed-1",
    icon = "__base__/graphics/technology/worker-robots-speed.png",
    effects = {
      {
        type = "worker-robot-speed",
        modifier = 0.35
=>		target =
=>			{
=>			"construction-robot",
=>			"logistic-robot",
=>			"other_robot-with-logistic-interface"
=>			}
      }
    },

    effects = {
      {
        type = "worker-robot-speed",
        modifier = 0.35
		target =
			{
			"construction-robot-3",
			"construction-robot-4",
			"logistic-robot-2",
			"logistic-robot-3",
			"logistic-robot-4",
			"whatever-name-you-gave-the-other-robot"
			}
      }
    },

Why ?

Jap2.0 wrote:I'm not sure (I don't mod at the moment), but I think you want the modding interface requests subforum.

JohnyDL wrote:Right now the global effects are global and set in the C section of the code AFAIK and so adding effects via mods isn't possible, if you want fast robots you could increase the base speed I suspect. but the effects from technologies et al, they're not modable you can just increase the multipliers via the Lua

laku wrote:

JohnyDL wrote:Right now the global effects are global and set in the C section of the code AFAIK and so adding effects via mods isn't possible, if you want fast robots you could increase the base speed I suspect. but the effects from technologies et al, they're not modable you can just increase the multipliers via the Lua

I am not quite sure, if i understand you, but i am asking for a way to select to what robots these effects will apply. As you stated correctly, there is no way to do this with mods, hence i am asking for a way to be implemented to do that.

JohnyDL wrote:

laku wrote:

JohnyDL wrote:Right now the global effects are global and set in the C section of the code AFAIK and so adding effects via mods isn't possible, if you want fast robots you could increase the base speed I suspect. but the effects from technologies et al, they're not modable you can just increase the multipliers via the Lua

I am not quite sure, if i understand you, but i am asking for a way to select to what robots these effects will apply. As you stated correctly, there is no way to do this with mods, hence i am asking for a way to be implemented to do that.

I've seen a number of requests for different effect modifiers and different ways for modifiers to effect things from bots on down, and the answers I've seen have usually been along the lines of "it's to do with the prototype in the C part of the program and right now there are no plans to modify this" if you don't want an effect say worker robot speed to work on a robot, I think your only choice is to use a different prototype, but like I say if you want faster bots then you can set the base speed to 2 or 3 and the 2%+ movement speed bonus should stack with that or slower 0.5 or 0.1 movement speed could be used there. but unfortunately it will still get that 2%+ boost

JohnyDL wrote:I see, I do kind of focus on speed cause it's the most visual and maybe just a tweak to capacity bonus (rather than a +1 being a *1.xyz) that gives the same change to vanilla but would have knock on effects comparable to the size of the initial inventory would do that, I know what you're kind of asking for is maybe an extra way to tweak the bots based on the levels of things maybe clicking on a bot with a speed module gives it an extra speed boost compared to any other until it lands which would be cool or an efficiency module (or a few stacks of them) could make a sigle robot capable of picking up an entire inventory of items, but I don't think the Devs would go for such a change as it means you can't do a matrix calculation to apply to all bots each one has to be processed individually adding to overhead and reducing UPS

    effects = {
      {
        type = "worker-robot-speed",
        modifier = 0.35
		target =
			{
			"construction-robot-3",
			"construction-robot-4",
			"logistic-robot-2",
			"logistic-robot-3",
			"logistic-robot-4",
			"whatever-name-you-gave-the-other-robot"
			}
      }
    },

JohnyDL wrote:For multiple effects couldn't you instantiate the robot as both types have the calculations worked out for each type and then return a Min or Max of the different values?

laku wrote:

JohnyDL wrote:For multiple effects couldn't you instantiate the robot as both types have the calculations worked out for each type and then return a Min or Max of the different values?

Are you suggesting this to me or to the devs? If you are suggesting this to me, this is either not possible or I simply don't understand you. If this is a solution to the devs to implement my suggestion, then I think we can agree on your idea.

JohnyDL wrote:More for you, when you make a bot actually code it as 2 bots and make it so when one of them gets picked for a job it automatically makes the other one busy