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mxpal wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 23, 2020 2:00 pm

its because you need ralesia for ulrics which is way more expensive than moss and biomass for auog (using the basic recipe) in early game. The version requiring ulric food may be better, but the space and building cost of the chain still does not offer a big advantage, and may not be worth it until you have a healthy supply of building mats.

mrbaggins wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:58 am

I'm 250hrs into a 0.16-0.17 pymods run.

Am I able to update to 0.18 and add this? Or is that going to be a mess?

mrbaggins wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:58 am

I'm 250hrs into a 0.16-0.17 pymods run.

Am I able to update to 0.18 and add this? Or is that going to be a mess?

theblindironman wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:03 pm

Is there way to add an infinite research path for "Green Thumb" that adds a global productivity to plant production? Same with Animal Husbandry for animal productivity? It would be similar to mining productivity. Not speed, but produce extra product.

Also, for xeno production, is it possible to get some empty cages back when we feed them caged mukmoux/caged ulrics?

theblindironman wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2020 5:03 pm

Is there way to add an infinite research path for "Green Thumb" that adds a global productivity to plant production? Same with Animal Husbandry for animal productivity? It would be similar to mining productivity. Not speed, but produce extra product.

mxpal wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:55 am

thats exactly wt i did to my 500 hours base. its not really a big mess when compared to building your base again from scratch.
of course a part of your factory will break, but thats mostly limited to the science packs and biological products like bone meal, lard, plants and urea.
other chains like filtration media and CO2 is easy to fix.

You can use "Resource spawning ingame" mod to create biosample patches for your save. You can adjust whether its spawned inside your base and outside too.
Use "Change map settings" mod if you want to change the map's resource generation parameters.
If all else fails, u can use console command to generate it manually, simply search for it in factorio wiki.

mrbaggins wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:28 pm

All good cheers. Will have to play around on the weekend. Is that the only world-gen that matters? I can find the "delete empty chunks" mod and do that to encourage new ores around my base

Kino_ wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:12 am

I know Py's is supposed to be slow but I'm just making sure I'm not missing some concept that I could be taking advantage of. I'm at about 25 hours and still on red science, though slowly all the parts to green science are coming together. I just got aug's so I can finally get manure to automate circuit production. Is this slower than I should be progressing or am I on par?

Kino_ wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:12 am

I know Py's is supposed to be slow but I'm just making sure I'm not missing some concept that I could be taking advantage of. I'm at about 25 hours and still on red science, though slowly all the parts to green science are coming together. I just got aug's so I can finally get manure to automate circuit production. Is this slower than I should be progressing or am I on par?

Kino_ wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:38 am

I thought making vrauk and aug was bad. Oh boy was I in for a surprise when I wanted to make some moondrop, to grow moondrop you need a moondrop seed, to get that moondrop seed you need to put 5 moondrop in a botanical nursery. These 5 moondrop plus one needed as a module in the moondrop building totals to 6 moondrop needed to start sustainable production. The only other way to get moondrop is to craft it from a load of expensive parts. They total up to 600 science and 2500+ copper plates. It feels like a very very steep startup cost compared to the max cost of 100 science for most other animals. Ralesia also suffers from this but is only half as much at 300 science.

EDIT: also the yield of moondrop per moondrop seed seems to go down with increasing recipe difficulty

crux042 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:34 am

Kino_ wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:38 am

I thought making vrauk and aug was bad. Oh boy was I in for a surprise when I wanted to make some moondrop, to grow moondrop you need a moondrop seed, to get that moondrop seed you need to put 5 moondrop in a botanical nursery. These 5 moondrop plus one needed as a module in the moondrop building totals to 6 moondrop needed to start sustainable production. The only other way to get moondrop is to craft it from a load of expensive parts. They total up to 600 science and 2500+ copper plates. It feels like a very very steep startup cost compared to the max cost of 100 science for most other animals. Ralesia also suffers from this but is only half as much at 300 science.

EDIT: also the yield of moondrop per moondrop seed seems to go down with increasing recipe difficulty

All other plants are similar. Preparing initial batch of plants and animals in expensive cost is PY AL design concept.

vislle wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:02 pm

Bug:
Every time I load my save, the slaughter house selection window is enabled, If I try to close it, it kick me out of factorio.


Any idea about how to solve it? I couldn't find any way to reset the GUI or similar...I could deactivate Alien life and reactivate it but this means lose all the animals and plants so far and this would be a real pain in the ass with this mod.