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TwentyEighty wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:52 am

What if you could do sodium hydroxide plus hydrogen chloride equals salt+ water? That would give something to do with all that sodium hydroxide

sodium hydroxide +h2so4 > Na2SO4

Fine, something to do with the rest of the sodium hydroxide

Immortal_siper1
Pyanodon increasen count of molybdenum plates which we can get - was 1 becomes 2
Not aramiac but aramid - molybdenum is often using for aramid
Armac 12 - fluid for iron chain and for nexelit chain
Almac - dluid for aluminium chain and for titanium chain

Agree that RSO doesn't spawn enough salt.
Without it I spawn tons of it but with it's the first rocks 3000 tiles away from spawn. It was actually pretty hard to get all the rail to get there but now got a 11m salt and 5m. Coal is sources local. That stuff is everywhere.

It's mainly salt and oil that's short

host65 wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:07 am

Agree that RSO doesn't spawn enough salt.
Without it I spawn tons of it but with it's the first rocks 3000 tiles away from spawn. It was actually pretty hard to get all the rail to get there but now got a 11m salt and 5m. Coal is sources local. That stuff is everywhere.

It's mainly salt and oil that's short

you have the option of producing saline water from excessive tar from syngas power plant or from stone in almost all ore processing chains. no need to turn tar into coal gas since u have coal everywhere. u get tailings and saline using the quenching tower tar recipe, and in turn u also get crude oil by turning tailings->coal-water slurry->aromatics and then combine it with syngas in methanol reactor. use the excessive benzene to produce power.

Another silly tech tree problem... Copper.

At copper 2, I have the ability to make Grade 4 copper, and Molten copper. But I can't cast it. That recipe is in copper 3. With all the other crazy things in Copper 3, The casting should be in Copper 2.

Or I can turn the Grade 4 into Copper Solution, but that's also uiseless til Copper 3 is researched

I also think casting copper should be tier two like all the other metals, but you can actually make duralumin from molten copper in tier two, so it still has a use. And then you get low grade copper as a by product for smelting. The molten duralumin recipe is much more efficient, although molten aluminum requires just a ton of electricity

what are you people talking about? Casting and molten copper are in copper 2.

I think it is because you can make Molten copper with copper 2 research but the only thing you can do with it is the Duralumin recipe. To make the copper plates from molten we need "copper 3" research

EDIT: Oh nvm i just seen there was an update a few days ago and casting is now in copper 2

It seems really strange with sintered copper and high grade copper..

You see, a sintered copper can make 40 melted copper, and a high grade copper can make 50, however, a sintered copper requires a high grade copper..

Then who will select this more inefficient recipe..?

Meow..!

liwers wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 am

It seems really strange with sintered copper and high grade copper..

You see, a sintered copper can make 40 melted copper, and a high grade copper can make 50, however, a sintered copper requires a high grade copper..

Then who will select this more inefficient recipe..?

Meow..!

Pay attention to quantities, its two sintered from one high grade iirc

Arfarazon wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:46 am

liwers wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 am

It seems really strange with sintered copper and high grade copper..

You see, a sintered copper can make 40 melted copper, and a high grade copper can make 50, however, a sintered copper requires a high grade copper..

Then who will select this more inefficient recipe..?

Meow..!

Pay attention to quantities, its two sintered from one high grade iirc

No, what you say its two sintered from one reduced 99.9% copper, not the high grade, I've just double check in-game and the recipe-copper.lua again and confirmed it..!

Meow..!

I must be missing something, FENI only shows me 2 recipe that have iron pulp 01 in it.
The barreling recipe and how to make it, There is no usage. Is this really a pure waste product?

liwers wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:11 am

Arfarazon wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:46 am

liwers wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 am

It seems really strange with sintered copper and high grade copper..

You see, a sintered copper can make 40 melted copper, and a high grade copper can make 50, however, a sintered copper requires a high grade copper..

Then who will select this more inefficient recipe..?

Meow..!

Pay attention to quantities, its two sintered from one high grade iirc

No, what you say its two sintered from one reduced 99.9% copper, not the high grade, I've just double check in-game and the recipe-copper.lua again and confirmed it..!

Meow..!

exactly, you make 1 reduced from 1 high grade, then make 2 sintered from one reduced

Dumb1bunny wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:23 am

I must be missing something, FENI only shows me 2 recipe that have iron pulp 01 in it.
The barreling recipe and how to make it, There is no usage. Is this really a pure waste product?

no, you can make iron concentrate from it, and then further down the chain

Arfarazon wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:34 am

liwers wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:11 am

Arfarazon wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:46 am

liwers wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 am

It seems really strange with sintered copper and high grade copper..

You see, a sintered copper can make 40 melted copper, and a high grade copper can make 50, however, a sintered copper requires a high grade copper..

Then who will select this more inefficient recipe..?

Meow..!

Pay attention to quantities, its two sintered from one high grade iirc

No, what you say its two sintered from one reduced 99.9% copper, not the high grade, I've just double check in-game and the recipe-copper.lua again and confirmed it..!

Meow..!

exactly, you make 1 reduced from 1 high grade, then make 2 sintered from one reduced

Ah, I see, you didn't really understand me..

Yes, there is a recipe line the makes 1 high grade - 1 reduced - 2 sintered, this is true.. However, this was not what I was talking about..

What I meant was: there are four recipes here,

80 molten copper - 2 sintered - 1 reduced - 1 high grade,
60 molten copper - 1 reduced - 1 high grade,
50 molten copper - 1 high grade,
40 molten copper - 1 sintered - 1 high grade..

You see the last recipe, it takes an extra processing step, cost extra borax and oxygen (and electricity), but gives less molten copper then the previous one..

So I wondered, what is the usage or beingness should this inefficient recipe still exists..

Meow..!

liwers wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:09 am

Ah, I see, you didn't really understand me..

Yes, there is a recipe line the makes 1 high grade - 1 reduced - 2 sintered, this is true.. However, this was not what I was talking about..

What I meant was: there are four recipes here,

80 molten copper - 2 sintered - 1 reduced - 1 high grade,
60 molten copper - 1 reduced - 1 high grade,
50 molten copper - 1 high grade,
40 molten copper - 1 sintered - 1 high grade..

You see the last recipe, it takes an extra processing step, cost extra borax and oxygen (and electricity), but gives less molten copper then the previous one..

So I wondered, what is the usage or beingness should this inefficient recipe still exists..

Meow..!

Ah yes, this indeed seems out of place, especially considering you cant smelt sintered to molten before t4 research

Arfarazon wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:35 am

Dumb1bunny wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:23 am

I must be missing something, FENI only shows me 2 recipe that have iron pulp 01 in it.
The barreling recipe and how to make it, There is no usage. Is this really a pure waste product?

no, you can make iron concentrate from it, and then further down the chain

Could you be more specific( what building, what tech should it have unlocked with)?

Any help would be appreciated.
I found it thank you

Wooohooooooo, Excavation 1 is now red/green science.

Time for me to start stockpiling them Iron sticks MUAHAHAAHA