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Re: pY Raw Ores Discussion

Post by TwentyEighty » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:52 am

What if you could do sodium hydroxide plus hydrogen chloride equals salt+ water? That would give something to do with all that sodium hydroxide

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Re: pY Raw Ores Discussion

Post by immortal_sniper1 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:16 am

TwentyEighty wrote:
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What if you could do sodium hydroxide plus hydrogen chloride equals salt+ water? That would give something to do with all that sodium hydroxide
sodium hydroxide +h2so4 > Na2SO4

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Post by TwentyEighty » Thu Jan 31, 2019 2:12 pm

Fine, something to do with the rest of the sodium hydroxide ;)

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Post by aklesey1 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:56 pm

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Pyanodon increasen count of molybdenum plates which we can get - was 1 becomes 2
Not aramiac but aramid - molybdenum is often using for aramid
Armac 12 - fluid for iron chain and for nexelit chain
Almac - dluid for aluminium chain and for titanium chain

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Re: pY Raw Ores Discussion

Post by host65 » Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:07 am

Agree that RSO doesn't spawn enough salt.
Without it I spawn tons of it but with it's the first rocks 3000 tiles away from spawn. It was actually pretty hard to get all the rail to get there but now got a 11m salt and 5m. Coal is sources local. That stuff is everywhere.

It's mainly salt and oil that's short

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Post by mxpal » Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:55 am

host65 wrote:
Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:07 am
Agree that RSO doesn't spawn enough salt.
Without it I spawn tons of it but with it's the first rocks 3000 tiles away from spawn. It was actually pretty hard to get all the rail to get there but now got a 11m salt and 5m. Coal is sources local. That stuff is everywhere.

It's mainly salt and oil that's short
you have the option of producing saline water from excessive tar from syngas power plant or from stone in almost all ore processing chains. no need to turn tar into coal gas since u have coal everywhere. u get tailings and saline using the quenching tower tar recipe, and in turn u also get crude oil by turning tailings->coal-water slurry->aromatics and then combine it with syngas in methanol reactor. use the excessive benzene to produce power.

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Post by mrbaggins » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:20 am

Another silly tech tree problem... Copper.

At copper 2, I have the ability to make Grade 4 copper, and Molten copper. But I can't cast it. That recipe is in copper 3. With all the other crazy things in Copper 3, The casting should be in Copper 2.

Or I can turn the Grade 4 into Copper Solution, but that's also uiseless til Copper 3 is researched

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Post by TwentyEighty » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:00 am

I also think casting copper should be tier two like all the other metals, but you can actually make duralumin from molten copper in tier two, so it still has a use. And then you get low grade copper as a by product for smelting. The molten duralumin recipe is much more efficient, although molten aluminum requires just a ton of electricity

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Post by pyanodon » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:43 pm

what are you people talking about? Casting and molten copper are in copper 2.
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Post by Cardoyle » Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:30 pm

I think it is because you can make Molten copper with copper 2 research but the only thing you can do with it is the Duralumin recipe. To make the copper plates from molten we need "copper 3" research

EDIT: Oh nvm i just seen there was an update a few days ago and casting is now in copper 2 :oops:

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Post by liwers » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 am

It seems really strange with sintered copper and high grade copper..

You see, a sintered copper can make 40 melted copper, and a high grade copper can make 50, however, a sintered copper requires a high grade copper..

Then who will select this more inefficient recipe..?

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Post by Arfarazon » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:46 am

liwers wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 am
It seems really strange with sintered copper and high grade copper..

You see, a sintered copper can make 40 melted copper, and a high grade copper can make 50, however, a sintered copper requires a high grade copper..

Then who will select this more inefficient recipe..?

Meow..!
Pay attention to quantities, its two sintered from one high grade iirc

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Post by liwers » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:11 am

Arfarazon wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:46 am
liwers wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 am
It seems really strange with sintered copper and high grade copper..

You see, a sintered copper can make 40 melted copper, and a high grade copper can make 50, however, a sintered copper requires a high grade copper..

Then who will select this more inefficient recipe..?

Meow..!
Pay attention to quantities, its two sintered from one high grade iirc
No, what you say its two sintered from one reduced 99.9% copper, not the high grade, I've just double check in-game and the recipe-copper.lua again and confirmed it..!

Meow..!

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Post by Dumb1bunny » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:23 am

I must be missing something, FENI only shows me 2 recipe that have iron pulp 01 in it.
The barreling recipe and how to make it, There is no usage. Is this really a pure waste product?

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Post by Arfarazon » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:34 am

liwers wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:11 am
Arfarazon wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:46 am
liwers wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 am
It seems really strange with sintered copper and high grade copper..

You see, a sintered copper can make 40 melted copper, and a high grade copper can make 50, however, a sintered copper requires a high grade copper..

Then who will select this more inefficient recipe..?

Meow..!
Pay attention to quantities, its two sintered from one high grade iirc
No, what you say its two sintered from one reduced 99.9% copper, not the high grade, I've just double check in-game and the recipe-copper.lua again and confirmed it..!

Meow..!
exactly, you make 1 reduced from 1 high grade, then make 2 sintered from one reduced
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Re: pY Raw Ores Discussion

Post by Arfarazon » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:35 am

Dumb1bunny wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:23 am
I must be missing something, FENI only shows me 2 recipe that have iron pulp 01 in it.
The barreling recipe and how to make it, There is no usage. Is this really a pure waste product?
no, you can make iron concentrate from it, and then further down the chain

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Post by liwers » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:09 am

Arfarazon wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:34 am
liwers wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:11 am
Arfarazon wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:46 am
liwers wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:25 am
It seems really strange with sintered copper and high grade copper..

You see, a sintered copper can make 40 melted copper, and a high grade copper can make 50, however, a sintered copper requires a high grade copper..

Then who will select this more inefficient recipe..?

Meow..!
Pay attention to quantities, its two sintered from one high grade iirc
No, what you say its two sintered from one reduced 99.9% copper, not the high grade, I've just double check in-game and the recipe-copper.lua again and confirmed it..!

Meow..!
exactly, you make 1 reduced from 1 high grade, then make 2 sintered from one reduced
Ah, I see, you didn't really understand me..

Yes, there is a recipe line the makes 1 high grade - 1 reduced - 2 sintered, this is true.. However, this was not what I was talking about..

What I meant was: there are four recipes here,

80 molten copper - 2 sintered - 1 reduced - 1 high grade,
60 molten copper - 1 reduced - 1 high grade,
50 molten copper - 1 high grade,
40 molten copper - 1 sintered - 1 high grade..

You see the last recipe, it takes an extra processing step, cost extra borax and oxygen (and electricity), but gives less molten copper then the previous one..

So I wondered, what is the usage or beingness should this inefficient recipe still exists..

Meow..!

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Post by Arfarazon » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:37 am

liwers wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:09 am
Ah, I see, you didn't really understand me..

Yes, there is a recipe line the makes 1 high grade - 1 reduced - 2 sintered, this is true.. However, this was not what I was talking about..

What I meant was: there are four recipes here,

80 molten copper - 2 sintered - 1 reduced - 1 high grade,
60 molten copper - 1 reduced - 1 high grade,
50 molten copper - 1 high grade,
40 molten copper - 1 sintered - 1 high grade..

You see the last recipe, it takes an extra processing step, cost extra borax and oxygen (and electricity), but gives less molten copper then the previous one..

So I wondered, what is the usage or beingness should this inefficient recipe still exists..

Meow..!
Ah yes, this indeed seems out of place, especially considering you cant smelt sintered to molten before t4 research

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Post by Dumb1bunny » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:20 am

Arfarazon wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:35 am
Dumb1bunny wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:23 am
I must be missing something, FENI only shows me 2 recipe that have iron pulp 01 in it.
The barreling recipe and how to make it, There is no usage. Is this really a pure waste product?
no, you can make iron concentrate from it, and then further down the chain
Could you be more specific( what building, what tech should it have unlocked with)?

Any help would be appreciated.
I found it thank you :)

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Post by Cardoyle » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:12 pm

Wooohooooooo, Excavation 1 is now red/green science.

Time for me to start stockpiling them Iron sticks MUAHAHAAHA :twisted:

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