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cpy wrote:Is it better to play pymods with bob mods or just play stand alone?

I tried pymods only with zombie mod, and making circuits is really pain after one update. They used to be craftable in assemblers but not anymore.

Raphaello wrote:I've finally reached a milestone - automation of blue science in py&bobs setup after 110 hours of play on this map!!!
The base is a mess, even though I am constantly optimizing the layout to avoid long transportation routes. The main bus is the vertical on - I'm trying to avoid having a very long factory therefore I've added the horizontal one which serves the subfactory producing level 1 and 2 electronics, chromium (this one takes a lot of space and energy and I've finally build an extendable setup), coke, glass and some other materials

I can add more screenshots if someone is interested in a specific production chain.

Some suggestions:
- simple and limited teleportation and walking speed buffs are necessity due to size of the base. I'm using console to speed up moving around the base now.
- fiber production is difficult - kicalk plantation is very expensive so making it by hand takes significant amount of preparation. More efficient recipes are somewhat pointless as they use lamps (which in turn fiber) - I have not calculated if they are worth but strongly suspect it makes much more sense to increase size than to use fiber to produce fiber faster
- pybots are usless to me. Bots and roboports are available early but chests require red circuits which are very difficult to make. I have the circuits now but at this stage normal bots are available and they are superior to pybots. Development suggestion - make logistic pybots and storage chest require circuit boards 1 instead of CB2. Additionally make self-powered pybot-only personal roboport so that they are useful but not overpowered.

EDIT: forgot to add that I enjoy the mods a lot. Great work pyanodon!

cpy wrote:So bob+pyanodon is less or more complex than just pure pyanodon mods?

pyanodon wrote:Mod updated! please grab your updated version by the game or mod portal. Info on the first page.

Raphaello wrote:

pyanodon wrote:Mod updated! please grab your updated version by the game or mod portal. Info on the first page.

Thanks a lot! I've just had a quick glance at the changes and they look great!
I'm redesigning my rare earth processing now but I will definitely take advantage of the changed lamp recipe for kicalk plantation. Oh, sweet fiber!!

kingarthur wrote:

cpy wrote:So bob+pyanodon is less or more complex than just pure pyanodon mods?

defiantly more complex as it adds all of bobs ores and other things. while i dont have an exact break down on what changes with adding bobs to pymods i can say with a bit of certainty a py+bob game is like and angel+bob game. each one is got challenges and they build one each other to make it that much more difficult. now im not say it isn't "fun" but im also leading the crazy train that likes py+angels+bobs.

cpy wrote:

kingarthur wrote:

cpy wrote:So bob+pyanodon is less or more complex than just pure pyanodon mods?

defiantly more complex as it adds all of bobs ores and other things. while i dont have an exact break down on what changes with adding bobs to pymods i can say with a bit of certainty a py+bob game is like and angel+bob game. each one is got challenges and they build one each other to make it that much more difficult. now im not say it isn't "fun" but im also leading the crazy train that likes py+angels+bobs.

I fear circuit making will be much easier with bob than just pure pyanodon. Since basic pyanodon high tech have such insane circuit production that i doubt it can be made even harder.

Raphaello wrote:

pyanodon wrote:Mod updated! please grab your updated version by the game or mod portal. Info on the first page.

Thanks a lot! I've just had a quick glance at the changes and they look great!
I'm redesigning my rare earth processing now but I will definitely take advantage of the changed lamp recipe for kicalk plantation. Oh, sweet fiber!!

aklesey1 wrote:

Raphaello wrote:

pyanodon wrote:Mod updated! please grab your updated version by the game or mod portal. Info on the first page.

Thanks a lot! I've just had a quick glance at the changes and they look great!
I'm redesigning my rare earth processing now but I will definitely take advantage of the changed lamp recipe for kicalk plantation. Oh, sweet fiber!!

Sorry where u found any changes with rare earth resources processing?

cpy wrote: Not to mention you actually have to produce extra steam, farm wheat, farm wood (more complex than bob), make coke and you have to create creosote from that process. Also too much creosote clogs system, syngas power juggling and many many more fun stuff.
In bob you shove copper and iron and be happy. In pure Pymadness copper plates are used in components. Basically circuit 1 is more complex than whole vanilla rocket launch. Bonus points: almost every process have its own building type.

kingarthur wrote:

cpy wrote: Not to mention you actually have to produce extra steam, farm wheat, farm wood (more complex than bob), make coke and you have to create creosote from that process. Also too much creosote clogs system, syngas power juggling and many many more fun stuff.
In bob you shove copper and iron and be happy. In pure Pymadness copper plates are used in components. Basically circuit 1 is more complex than whole vanilla rocket launch. Bonus points: almost every process have its own building type.

Ya other than Bob's somewhat cheat greenhouses. Non of that is made easier. On top of all that in normal py. It requires more items to be made. Going from 16 to like 21

Raphaello wrote:I'm redesigning my rare earth processing now ..

Raphaello wrote:For some reason though centrifugal pan does not have this recipe available.

pyanodon wrote:True! it was a bug...will be fixed in the next release.