Re: Optimized Steam Engine Setup
Posted: Thu May 04, 2017 12:21 pm
Given the new size of boilers, 1:2 ratio and water in, water out and steam out connections this needs a complete rethinking.
Afaik it can ignore collisions so you end up with lots of boilers bunched together and you need to deconstruct them.mrvn wrote:You can load old games in 0.15? How will it convert the boilers? There
a) won't be space for the 3x2 boiler
b) the pipes don't work
Seems like that should be impossible unless the old boilers are kept.
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It'll convert the boilers anyway. They'll overlap and not connect so powerplants based on them fail to work until you modify them.mrvn wrote:You can load old games in 0.15? How will it convert the boilers? There
a) won't be space for the 3x2 boiler
b) the pipes don't work
Seems like that should be impossible unless the old boilers are kept.
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1 Heat Exchanger requires 10 MW / 5.8 MW = 1.72 Steam Turbines..., 4 Heat Exchangers require 6.9 Steam Engines... so there surely is a sweetspot somewhere for those who want perfect ratios.mrvn wrote:I noticed that one heat exchanger isn't enough for 2 turbines. Has anyone figured out the perfect ratio and pipe setup?
Boilers and Heat Exchangers together? How does that work? I thought boilers only produced low temperature steam and turbines run best with high temperature steam. Can you show a screenshot?MeduSalem wrote:1 Heat Exchanger requires 10 MW / 5.8 MW = 1.72 Steam Turbines..., 4 Heat Exchangers require 6.9 Steam Engines... so there surely is a sweetspot somewhere for those who want perfect ratios.mrvn wrote:I noticed that one heat exchanger isn't enough for 2 turbines. Has anyone figured out the perfect ratio and pipe setup?
But that said I'm using a 10 Boiler : 4 Heat Exchanger : 10 Steam Turbines configuration... because 10 Boilers + 4 Heat Exchangers = 10 * 1.8 MW + 4 * 10 MW = 18 MW + 40 MW = 58 MW... which goes perfectly with 10 Steam Engines = 10 * 5.8 MW = 58 MW.
Yeah, well I preheat the water in the boilers before they go into the Heat Exchangers (generic setup for testing purposes):mrvn wrote:Boilers and Heat Exchangers together? How does that work? I thought boilers only produced low temperature steam and turbines run best with high temperature steam. Can you show a screenshot?
But what's the advantage of a setup like this, over a separate nuclear power plant, and a power switch (or accumulator bridge) with the coal/oil power plant? I mean it's obviously cool, but doesn't seem like it's actually doing anything better than a completely separate boiler and nuclear power plant (with power switches and/or accumulator bridges to manage power flow)MeduSalem wrote: Yeah, well I preheat the water in the boilers before they go into the Heat Exchangers
Actually I don't think that there is a huge advantage of doing a hybrid powerplant instead of building two seperate ones and using power switches.BlakeMW wrote:But what's the advantage of a setup like this, over a separate nuclear power plant, and a power switch (or accumulator bridge) with the coal/oil power plant? I mean it's obviously cool, but doesn't seem like it's actually doing anything better than a completely separate boiler and nuclear power plant (with power switches and/or accumulator bridges to manage power flow)
That should be easy to test:MeduSalem wrote:Actually I don't think that there is a huge advantage of doing a hybrid powerplant instead of building two seperate ones and using power switches.BlakeMW wrote:But what's the advantage of a setup like this, over a separate nuclear power plant, and a power switch (or accumulator bridge) with the coal/oil power plant? I mean it's obviously cool, but doesn't seem like it's actually doing anything better than a completely separate boiler and nuclear power plant (with power switches and/or accumulator bridges to manage power flow)
That said maybe there is a little advantage... I was too lazy to prepare another shore for the Nuclear Power plant... By making it a hybrid power plant I could use the existing shoreline and existing infrastructure/space. Before I made it a Hybrid power plant I actually had a 28:20 Steam Power plant there back from 0.14. So if you so want... you spare yourself the work of preparing another shore. I just replaced the 20 Steam Engines per row with the 4 Heat Exchangers and 10 Steam Turbines per row and left the Boilers be.
There's nothing wrong with doing it seperately of course...