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10 000 SPM / 92GW power / 500 trains /1460 stops
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Base screens
production
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electric
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logic network
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simple view
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energy. 92GW charging/63GW night
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Mods
Just 1 mod necessary for ANY 5k spm+ gigabase. Logistic Train Network This mod allows to control huge amount of trains and stations. Must be used for gigabase in any case. If someone need i can make manual for it.
I'm also use some cosmetics mods.
MK5 panels/accamulators.
Helicopters (I can recommend this mod for everyone)
Modular armor (big space of armor)
electric with mod and without
Without
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With mod solar panels have this cost: 1 solar panel = 40 space pack, 20 blue circuit, 80 red circuit, 1280 green circuit +copper. The same with accamulators.
but it will give us +FPS from easy energy calculations, +FPS from stop endless dron building and space economy.
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Build recommendations
1. Bots, only bots. Belts too slower and need balancers that take unreal space and FPS/UPS.
2. Rails 2+2 will be enought, 3+3 and bigger is too difficult to fill.
3. Space between rails: 3!
3
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4. Try to make small production factories (for 1k drons, not more)
5. Design with 12 beacons for 1 machine. 1 Blue chest for 2 machines.
6. Trains. 2+4 minimum size. 3+6 is optimal i think. Loco on 2 sides like 2+4+2 make yours trains 50% slower.
7. The number of cargo wagons should be even-numeric. Its important for building.
8. Only vertical and horizontal rails!
9. Production 3 modules every where.
10. Speed 3 in beacons and where you can't set production.
11. Calculations. You need to calculate a lot go exel or something.
12. No perfect structures!! NO NO NO!! Today you will make somethig perfect to destroy it's tomorrow.
From Russia with love.
Sorry for my English.
p.s. I'm looking for a job.
Edit notes:
1.03.2018 added some electric screens and recomendation.
28.03.2018 just topic name changed.
Re: From Russia with Love 10k SPM. No cheats
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:27 am
by Fractaliste
zggz wrote:
3. Space between rails: 3!
Argh I just switch to 4 spaces in order to fit with a design of X-junction I like...
Can you give me some details of your rails junctions ?
Re: From Russia with Love 10k SPM. No cheats
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:12 pm
by zggz
In late game i started using block rail structures. This block can be used one after one on any sides.
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at corners cristmas crossroads.
At left side 3 entrances.
Exits on top and down.
Some screens:
couple exits
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entrnce+stacker
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with some production blocks
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Re: From Russia with Love 10k SPM. No cheats
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:53 pm
by Aeternus
Post a couple of screens of your production patterns. You seem to have a similar mindset as me for designing a big old plant with production mods allround. What do you produce and ship around, and what do you just produce locally? IE do you produce engines and ship those to blue research makers, or do you produce those engines on the spot?
Re: From Russia with Love 10k SPM. No cheats
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:51 am
by MisterSpock
I has some of my:
400-500 Bots required with Botspeed Tech 16
my first try:
Re: From Russia with Love 10k SPM. No cheats
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:35 am
by zggz
Aeternus wrote:Post a couple of screens of your production patterns. You seem to have a similar mindset as me for designing a big old plant with production mods allround. What do you produce and ship around, and what do you just produce locally? IE do you produce engines and ship those to blue research makers, or do you produce those engines on the spot?
locally i'm produce: belts, inserters, pipe, copper cable and iron rear wheels.
Also all chemical production locally.
I will show some screens. Red circuit and plastic production.
plastik
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red production. I have blocks with 120 assembling machines. In this case its 107 red+13 cable (6 at one side and 7 at other side)
red 1
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Re: From Russia with Love 10k SPM. No cheats
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:49 am
by zggz
MisterSpock wrote:I has some of my:
Yours system will work. Try to build this in real game
Really good idea to set smelters with chess order. I'm also need this.
Read this to avoid some mistakes:
1. Stackers without station = problem with station choosing.
2. Too much free space between mini factories. Try to make compact.
3. You need production 3 modules in smelters.
4. Blue inserters enought for smelters in yours screen.
5. In 1 crossroads you have 2 entrance and 2 exits. Thats really too much. You will have traffic jum there, especially with so long trains.
6. trains 8+2 will accelerate too long. You need more locos. In start of game it is will be unimportant, but in late game it will be too late to change all stations.
7. Stackers too big for this count of stations. You need to make them smaller or add some mini factories.
Re: From Russia with Love 10k SPM. No cheats
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:39 pm
by Dave467
Hey zggz,
Really cool factory. Like this big Factories.
One question do i have:
Which map configuration did you choose dir this big structure?
Greetings dave
Re: From Russia with Love 10k SPM. No cheats
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:59 pm
by zggz
Dave467 wrote:Hey zggz,
Really cool factory. Like this big Factories.
One question do i have:
Which map configuration did you choose dir this big structure?
Greetings dave
Railworld
no enemy, no pollution. Thats give me some FPS.
Recources: uran - very low, small, very good. All other - normal, very big, very good.
This map created at 0.15. Now recource frequency changed.
Re: The biggest factory 10 000 science/min.
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:26 pm
by Whataguy
Got any blue prints for the rail ways ?
Re: The biggest factory 10 000 science/min.
Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:31 pm
by christian
I have a 12k SPM and vanilla default settings. All belts except ores, ores are brought in by long trains. Around 9UPS when fully running, 45UPS when science is stopped. I probably have one of the biggest cleared/walled areas. 280x550 chunks.
Re: The biggest factory 10 000 science/min.
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:56 pm
by zggz
christian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:31 pm
I have a 12k SPM and vanilla default settings. All belts except ores, ores are brought in by long trains. Around 9UPS when fully running, 45UPS when science is stopped. I probably have one of the biggest cleared/walled areas. 280x550 chunks.
Pls make another topic with a lot of screens. It will be interesting.
Re: The biggest factory 10 000 science/min.
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:23 pm
by zggz
Whataguy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:26 pm
Got any blue prints for the rail ways ?
Yep.
Removed because noone interested this.
Re: The biggest factory 10 000 science/min.
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 3:06 am
by Whataguy
What is the iron ore and copper ore usage ?
Re: The biggest factory 10 000 science/min.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:56 am
by Whataguy
christian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:31 pm
I have a 12k SPM and vanilla default settings. All belts except ores, ores are brought in by long trains. Around 9UPS when fully running, 45UPS when science is stopped. I probably have one of the biggest cleared/walled areas. 280x550 chunks.
Did you get 12k by using belts ? Its hard to see from the pic
christian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:31 pm
I have a 12k SPM and vanilla default settings. All belts except ores, ores are brought in by long trains. Around 9UPS when fully running, 45UPS when science is stopped. I probably have one of the biggest cleared/walled areas. 280x550 chunks.
Did you get 12k by using belts ? Its hard to see from the pic
Yeah using belts. But I use trains to bring ores in, and about 40 stations turn on and off based on how empty they are. Each station outputs 32 belts. So I can still increase SPM. My trains are 32+4. I stopped playing this map awhile ago tho. I play using bobs/angels mods now. Basically just trying to make the game harder instead of trying to build the biggest base I can. The grid I made is 10x10 chunks. The only use I have for bots are just to transport nuclear fuel to train stations. It's really hard to optimize at this stage because it's running at 10-12ups, so it takes forever. I play on a TR1 16 core too with 64gb RAM.
christian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:31 pm
I have a 12k SPM and vanilla default settings. All belts except ores, ores are brought in by long trains. Around 9UPS when fully running, 45UPS when science is stopped. I probably have one of the biggest cleared/walled areas. 280x550 chunks.
Pls make another topic with a lot of screens. It will be interesting.
Haha I was planning on making the biggest base I can then making a thread here, but I gave up on that, even tho my base is big, it's not as optimized. The ones I need to optimize more is the plates, I have assemblers that are starving when everything is running.
Re: The biggest factory 10 000 science/min.
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:46 pm
by AK90
christian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:31 pm
I have a 12k SPM and vanilla default settings. All belts except ores, ores are brought in by long trains. Around 9UPS when fully running, 45UPS when science is stopped. I probably have one of the biggest cleared/walled areas. 280x550 chunks.
The reason you are at 45UPS when idle is the explored map. The more you explore the more it tanks the game. That map could most likely never be optimized to a decent UPS
christian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:31 pm
I have a 12k SPM and vanilla default settings. All belts except ores, ores are brought in by long trains. Around 9UPS when fully running, 45UPS when science is stopped. I probably have one of the biggest cleared/walled areas. 280x550 chunks.
The reason you are at 45UPS when idle is the explored map. The more you explore the more it tanks the game. That map could most likely never be optimized to a decent UPS
