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Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 1:55 am
by Incinirate
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Probably not the most efficient, but pretty good.

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:03 am
by Leon
Incinirate wrote:Probably not the most efficient
and most probably not automated

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:04 am
by Leon
this is the best automated 4x science pack setup
4x science pack

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 3:33 pm
by Minbaru
I just have to say that is a piece of art

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 5:44 pm
by Xterminator
Ahhh this brings back memories of one of my first factories. :D Not a bad start! Wait until your on your 4th or 5th factory and then look back on this. It is a really great feeling to see progress you will have made. :)

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Sat May 14, 2016 7:50 pm
by Maja153
I have a setup in my factory that
-can't get backlogged because it cracks heavy oil to light and light to gas
-is super fast
-supports an entire outpost designed for research
-is FAR more compact than the first one posted
:ugeek:

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 5:37 am
by Minbaru
Well this is my current setup for science 3, I borrowed most of it :)

http://imgur.com/3qUYI4a

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 7:20 am
by Koub
The nicest setup is not the one you borrow, but the one you give birth to all by yourself :)

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 2:26 pm
by siggboy
Leon wrote:this is the best automated 4x science pack setup
Wow, that's very space efficient. And you even make the steel inside the module... LOL. The only things coming from the outside seem to be sulfuric acid and plastic bars. Why not make these in-place as well?

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 2:34 pm
by Minbaru
Koub wrote:The nicest setup is not the one you borrow, but the one you give birth to all by yourself :)
True, but finding inspiration is always good ;)

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:39 pm
by ChickenBeak
Dude I beg you, make an explanation YouTube video on how you built that. Or even a written one. It looks amazing.
Leon wrote:this is the best automated 4x science pack setup
4x science pack

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:33 pm
by hi_impact
Leon wrote:this is the best automated 4x science pack setup
mother of god that is nice

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:52 pm
by LazyLoneLion
I like this setup more:
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(c) https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comme ... k_compact/

Because it's shorter, it has bigger performance (you can add another 10 labs too) and it's balanced.
And it blows my mind too :)

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:37 pm
by brunzenstein
LazyLoneLion wrote:I like this setup more
Because it's shorter, it has bigger performance (you can add another 10 labs too) and it's balanced.
And it blows my mind too :)
Indeed - it's stunning

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:54 pm
by siggboy
LazyLoneLion wrote:Because it's shorter, it has bigger performance (you can add another 10 labs too) and it's balanced.
And it blows my mind too :)
I like this a lot, but it needs fixing in a few places for current Factorio because the build still uses the trick to grab off the end of a belt without the belt actually running that far. In a few spots this is not merely for looks, so the build won't work like this without fixing.

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:40 am
by LazyLoneLion
siggboy wrote:I like this a lot, but it needs fixing in a few places for current Factorio because the build still uses the trick to grab off the end of a belt without the belt actually running that far.
Sure. But those fixes are just obvious.

Here is my screenshot from 12.35 so far (rotated for my factory and with smallest changes as you can see). Was built for merely practical purposes.
Fully balanced compact science build
Fully balanced compact science build
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Down, behind the image, there are ten more science labs, added just lately.

Update: I've made few mistakes there, BTW:
1) one electric forge (left one) feeds from the wrong iron belt
2) there should be one more inserter for feeding every copper wire assembler. I have one per assembler, and there should be two per assembler.

Update #2:
2a) don't really need two feeding inserters there. Fast one is enough.
3) need additional inserter to take a copper cable out of the rightmost assembler.
4) coal for plastic should be fed by fast inserter.

Everything is fixed in my factory now.

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:03 pm
by siggboy
Yes, the fixes are obvious.

BTW the article on Reddit is really worth reading (other than most articles on Reddit...). The guy wrote a great description of what he did and why he did it.

The science module is really great, easily the best one out there. The best thing about it is that you can actually build it exactly as shown while you are progressing in the game (so for example it only uses Tier-1 assemblers for Red Science etc. nothing you can't even build yet at that point).

What's sad about it is that the space saving does not actually solve a problem. It only looks cool and well engineered.

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:05 pm
by siggboy
LazyLoneLion wrote:2) there should be one more inserter for feeding every copper wire assembler. I have one per assembler, and there should be two per assembler.
One per assembler is enough unless you use Assembly Machine 3 and/or speed modules.

A Fast Inserter is more than fast enough to feed a blue Assembly Machine with copper plates, even if the cycle time is only 0.5 seconds.

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:23 am
by LazyLoneLion
siggboy wrote:One per assembler is enough unless you use Assembly Machine 3 and/or speed modules.

A Fast Inserter is more than fast enough to feed a blue Assembly Machine with copper plates, even if the cycle time is only 0.5 seconds.
Seems so.
Still I need additional inserter to take a copper cable out of the rightmost assembler. :)
One more of my mistakes... Not going to say it disturbs me too much, however :)

Plus one more: coal for plastic should be fed by fast inserter.

Re: Automated Blue Science Pack Factory

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:28 am
by LazyLoneLion
siggboy wrote:What's sad about it is that the space saving does not actually solve a problem. It only looks cool and well engineered.
What problem do you have in mind there?