Things gone big - no bots factory

Circuit-free solutions of basic factory-design to achieve optimal item-throughput.
Involving: Belts (balancers, crossings), Inserters, Chests, Furnaces, Assembling Devices ...
Optimized production chains. Compact design.
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Circuit-free solutions of basic factory-design to achieve optimal item-throughput
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Things gone big - no bots factory

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Together with Leveller I've built factory and fed it with trains:

Unloading station for copper and iron - 4 trains each. 8 belts coming from station are then evened into 8 outputs and come to different parts of factory.
Unloading
Here closer look at 8-8 evener:
8-8 evener
Then roughly half of resources go to first smelting block and circuit factory
smelting block and green
There is also red and blue circuit production with some coal mine and modules.
red and blue circuits
And map with train system overview
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how is possible that one line of copper can feed so many furnaces ?

edit : oh i understand it now: ),.. production is stopped because you have everything full, so copper can travel all the down :)
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One full blue line of copper actually can fill all of these furnaces if I haven't miscalculated things. That's maximum it can do though.
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Hmmm.. omg :D

Thats some big factory - nice one.

Would you be willing to share save for example so we could look around?
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I actually don't have one, becouse it's hosted by Leveller and he won't be around for some time now... I can look for autosaves though, maybye I haven't overwritten them.

Okay, I've found the savegame and attached it. It's not final version (I don't have this) - lower part of factory is in the middle of massive rebuild, though upper (circuits and stuff) is complete. It uses several mods: (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/272 ... o/mods.rar)
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Wow that is one massive factory! :D Insane amount of red circuit production, I love it. haha
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Second smelting area. :) Also to the right is another 2 rows just for Steelsmelting.
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I don't understand why you guys don't smelt directly at the mine? Plates have a better stack size than ores so the train throughput and buffer storage are increased massively. Also if the furnances are placed on-site it's easier to get a good ratio of miner:furnance without wasting either the one or the other.
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Becouse we've got like 10 mines that deplete rapidly. We'd have to set up smelting at each of these points.
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psorek wrote:Becouse we've got like 10 mines that deplete rapidly. We'd have to set up smelting at each of these points.
I agree

And I personnaly prefer the "big base - small outpost" configuration, I just mine and load (and defend) at outpost and then I centralize every productions and smelting chains
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Even if plates stack better than ores, belts don't allow any stacking anyway. I'd personally construct a few storage fields after the smelters to buffer any raw material overflow, which would exploit the ease of stacking, but otherwise...
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I would like to ask you, guys,... how can i make this blue belt slots? i know that this is an item which is permanently set. but how to set it up ? thanks for answer

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I do not use this, but it has to do with the middle mousebutton.

I think, get the item in hand and then click with th middle button on the requested slot.
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oh, yes it works :) thank you :)
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and the most important : ctrl + middle mouse button to undo it, it drives me crazy the first time i wanted to reconfigure action bar without knowing it ;)
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I love megabases... but that 8-belt evener makes me cringe. Those corners aren't "fast corners" and suffer from compression losses. I noticed that it actually only has 6 output lanes so it works out in the end, but if you were to try to shove 8 fully compressed lines through there it will have problems. I think we've had this discussion elsewhere tho ;)
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Indeed :) But input is not compressed and i have built this system to take advantage of this. Also, we discussed it before :)
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from what I understood, 0.12 will have corners go at the same speed as straight belts so it will sort itself out. And I need to redo most of my factory stuff, downgrading the corners :D
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I thought the corner issue was one of the "better quirks" of Factorio peronsally. It didn't make much of a difference to the average player but was a reasonable issue to deal with on super efficient designs.
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Yes, for me it was an interesting fact and a subtle challenge when aiming for the max. Somehow I think I'll miss it when the design gets a bit casualized
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