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Rainbow belt w/o inserters

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 6:18 pm
by PaszaVonPomiot
Hello,

I wanted to have a rainbow belt but couldn't find any blueprint that would fit my needs so here is my attempt to build one. It's very much work in progress but basic concept works.

Objective
  • Player able to set number of items of each type on the belt
  • Belt should be able to accept 6 science pack types
  • Belt should be able to deal with unbalanced input
  • Belt will never become full
  • No inserters allowed for belt input, so that flow of items is more natural, and there is less energy consumption
  • Use the least amount of combinators (no more than needed)
  • throughput is not a major concern
How it works?

Red Science only version set to 16 items:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7CRN-BbF00
In similar manner you can add input belts for other science packs.
  • Constant Combinator sets maximum number of Red Science allowed on belt
  • Counter counts total number of Red Science on the belt
  • Barrel acts as a reset signal
  • Reset signal triggers Decider to check if number of Red Science is less than allowed
  • If true it triggers one-off timer that will pass Red Science half way through the controled input belt tile
  • the input tile that is controled must be red (8 ticks) or blue (6 ticks) belt
  • this will ensure that every cycle will pass through no more than 2 Red Science units to Rainbow Belt
  • if input belt is not balanced it will pass only 1 unit, but that's fine
  • in very rare cases input belt can pass 3 or even 4 items, but that is fine because counter will count them and delay next insertion
There is plenty of improvements to be made but I just wanted to show that it's possible to make stable rainbow belt without inserters.
Thanks to aaargha for giving me idea on improving circuit logic.
Once it's ready I will upload the blueprint.

Let me know what you think and how would you go about it?

Re: Rainbow belt w/o inserters [WIP]

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:07 am
by PaszaVonPomiot
Hello again,

I've managed to get the thing going as planned. It's not super pretty but it works as expected. You will find video here and blueprint below. It's setup so that it will ensure 12 red, 10 green, 8 blue ... science packs on the belt. Let me know if you have any ideas for upgrade.

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Re: Rainbow belt w/o inserters

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:57 pm
by PaszaVonPomiot
And yet another version with lane balancing and calibrated so that it will push 4 items at a time. The science type distribution on belt should be equal.

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Re: Rainbow belt w/o inserters

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:47 pm
by johnwhile
Hi, I would like to propose you my solution to make a rainbow belt: viewtopic.php?f=193&t=60203 but need to make a modification because the ratio is constant and not depend by actual labs consumption for technology that you are researching. :roll:

Re: Rainbow belt w/o inserters

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:31 am
by darkfrei

Re: Rainbow belt w/o inserters

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:12 pm
by johnwhile
A simplest solution: insert only that inserter read.
To start the process only insert manualy how many items you want in the lab's belt loop, every time inserters put an science pack in the lab, the transport belts ad one more item in the loop. Work well when you are researching a tech that require only some types of science pack

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...sorry red wire in the image are wrong linked, it exit from memory cell...
ConstLabInput

Re: Rainbow belt w/o inserters

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:45 pm
by thedarkbunny
I made a similar setup for a (ridiculous and long since scrapped) sushi system a couple of months ago. A useful QoL addition:

Add a constant combinator which contains the number of each science pack you want on the belt. Wire it to the memory cell output (red). That way, science packs don't need to be manually put on the belt during startup.

Re: Rainbow belt w/o inserters

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:10 am
by PaszaVonPomiot
Well, it's been a while.
Here's new approach. It won't ever get stuck. It enables specific science if it's not present and it blocks all science if there is overall too much on the belt.

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Re: Rainbow belt w/o inserters

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:15 am
by disentius
another approach to rainbows is discussed here:
viewtopic.php?f=202&t=70094&start=20

Re: Rainbow belt w/o inserters

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:51 pm
by PLLovervoltage
That other thread is under no circuit ufortunately. It would be nice if there was one thread for all science sushi designs.

Regardless, here's my take on it.
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Very simple and compact. Can support 62 labs for 1kspm. Simple circuit with counter. Belt enables until it counts up to 900. The inserters are wired up to send what they pick up and multiplied by -1 and wired to counter so that it subtracts what it picks up.