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[MOD 0.6.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.1 (Merging with Industrio)

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 5:51 pm
by metzyn
Solar Expansion is now merging with Industrio! I am releasing all future development to Nirahiel and he will carry the torch of adding new features and updating for the latest Factorio versions via his own mod. Thank you everyone for your suggestions and support.

Solar Expansion is a work-in-progress mod extending solar power by adding additional ore, items, solar panels, and technologies. I thrive on feedback so if you have any suggestions to add new content or balance changes (and especially bug reports), please comment!

The Realism Update!
Thanks to FreeER's research advice, I revamped the entire mod after hours of reading on the solar energy topic. This should be a bit more realistic :)

Features:
  • Added 2 new solar panels: Solar Array MK I, Solar Array MK II
  • Added 4 new items: Quartz Ore, Silicon Boule, Silicon Wafer, Solar Module
  • Added a new accumulator: Advanced Accumulator
  • Added 3 new technologies: Silicon Czochralski Process, Single-Crystal Solar Energy 1-2, Advanced Electric Energy Accumulator
Downloads: Installation:
  • Extract to "factorio_directory/mods/"
  • If updating from previous version, delete the "solar-expansion" folder and "mod-list" file BEFORE extraction
Change Log:
  • 0.3.1
    • added the map color property for quartz ore, to make it compatibile with 0.6.x versions.
  • 0.3.0
    • added new resource, Quartz Ore
    • added new item, Silicon Boule
    • added new item, Solar Module
    • added new entity, Solar Array MK I
    • added new entity, Solar Array MK II
    • added new technology, Silicon Czochralski Process
    • added new technology, Silicon-Crystal Solar Energy 1-2
    • removed LV Solar Array
    • removed MV Solar Array
    • removed HV Solar Array
    • removed Advanced Solar Energy 1-3
  • 0.2.1
    • fixed Advanced Accumulator recipe typo
  • 0.2.0
    • added Advanced Accumulators
    • added technology descriptions
    • changed Advanced Solar Energy 1 required Science Packs from 50 to 100
    • changed Advanced Solar Energy 2 required Science Packs from 50 to 150
    • changed Advanced Solar Energy 3 required Science Packs from 50 to 200
    • updated Solar Arrays for 0.5.x
  • 0.1.0
    • First Release
Images

Solar Array MK I | Solar Array MK II | Advanced Accumulator
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Quartz Ore | Silicon Boule | Silicon Wafer | Solar Module
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Silicon Czochralski Process | Single-Crystal Solar Energy | Advanced Electric Energy Accumulators
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Items / Entities

Solar Array MK I
  • Produces 90 energy
  • Requires Solar Module x16, Advanced Circuit x6, Steel Plate x4
Solar Array MK II
  • Produces 120 energy
  • Requires Solar Module x24, Advanced Circuit x10, Steel Plate x8
Silicon Boule
  • Requires Quartz Ore x8 (smelted)
Silicon Wafer
  • Requires Silicon Boule x1 (crafts x32 wafers)
Solar Module
  • Requires Silicon Wafers x16, Electronic Circuit x6, Iron Plate x4
Advanced Accumulator
  • Stores 10,000 energy
  • Requires Advanced Circuit x5, Basic Accumulator x5
Technologies

Silicon Czochralski Process
  • Requires Optics, Advanced Electronics
  • Requires Science Pack 1-3 x125
Single-Crystal Solar Energy 1
  • Requires Silicon Czochralski Process
  • Requires Science Pack 1-3 x175
Single-Crystal Solar Energy 2
  • Requires Single-Crystal Solar Energy 1
  • Requires Science Pack 1-3 x250
Advanced Electric Energy Accumulators
  • Requires Science Pack 1-3 x100

Re: [MOD WIP 0.4.1] Solar Expansion v0.1.0

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 6:01 pm
by MF-
(Here used to be a useless post about my opinion on IC, unrelated to the mod)

Re: [MOD WIP 0.4.1] Solar Expansion v0.1.0

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:33 am
by kovarex
Thank you for the nice mod addition, seems to be quite balanced (maybe the later research should be little bit more expensive)

In the 0.5 version, the solar panel will need to have electricity specification to be loadable, so if you want to make it compatible in advance, you can add this to all entity specifications of solar panels entities:

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energy_source =
    {
      type = "electric",
      input_priority = "none",
      output_priority = "primary"
    },
P.S. Just a detail, but I would clean up the mod files a little, by removing Thumbs.db file in grpahics/entity and graphics/icon as well as the tilda files (change.log~), so people are less confused what to open and the size of the directory is halved.

Re: [MOD WIP 0.4.1] Solar Expansion v0.1.0

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:47 am
by metzyn
I appreciate the input on balancing. I did attempt to balance as much as possible on the front-end and the research cost suggestion is a good one.

For 0.5.0, I am updating the files right now for my next version. Thank you for the heads up! You obviously looked over the files/code.

I did notice all the extra files generated by my Linux machine after the upload. I'm going to remove all the extra files in my next release, which will include a new accumulator. Thank you for the response and feedback! I love hearing from the developers and you guys kick ass!

Re: [MOD WIP 0.4.1] Solar Expansion v0.2.0

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:56 am
by Baldri

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{
		type = "recipe",
		name = "advanced-accumulator",
		enabled = "false",
		ingredients = {
			{"advanced-circuit", 5},
			{"basic-accumulator", 5}
		},
		result = "advanced-circuit"
	}
Just foun a typo in the last line. (Its in the Recipe-data, just switch circuit with accumulator and you should be fine)

Re: [MOD WIP 0.4.1] Solar Expansion v0.2.0

Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 3:34 pm
by metzyn
Thanks for the bug report! I always seem to miss something.

Re: [MOD WIP 0.4.x] Solar Expansion v0.2.1

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 1:51 am
by FreeER
metzyn wrote:
MF- wrote:I admit I haven't checked your mod. I already have enough regular panels and caps to cover my energy consumption.
I guess I don't like the technological concept of "Add 'HV' in front of something and repaint it to improve the production".
I prefer machines to stay plausible and feel realistic, criterion most of the MC or factorio mods don't fulfill.
PS: I am pretty sure something wrong happened to quotes in your post. I haven't said what is in my box.
You are correct in that just adding HV and "repainting" doesn't dynamic content, but I am not good at design or graphics. I'm a coder at heart and saw a need for higher-output solar panels and made what I could. I do take suggestions so I'm all ears.
Figured I'd post this here since it is specifically about your mod, I would suggest looking up how solar panels are made and the current advances that promise to improve the performance of solar panels (nice paper about some materials solar panels are made from and why) and then instead of having the simplistic crafting that is currently in Factorio/SE make it a longer more time consuming (but eventually worth while) process of researching advancements and setting up assembling lines. Thus it's no longer just a recolored image but an actual self-explaining process for why the panels produce more energy (even if the images are not changed much). You could also (if you wanted to leave it as HV) force players to use 'transformers', otherwise any powerlines near the solar panels would be destroyed. And you could always grab images from google and resize them lol

Re: [MOD WIP 0.4.x] Solar Expansion v0.2.1

Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 8:54 pm
by metzyn
FreeER wrote:Figured I'd post this here since it is specifically about your mod, I would suggest looking up how solar panels are made and the current advances that promise to improve the performance of solar panels (nice paper about some materials solar panels are made from and why) and then instead of having the simplistic crafting that is currently in Factorio/SE make it a longer more time consuming (but eventually worth while) process of researching advancements and setting up assembling lines. Thus it's no longer just a recolored image but an actual self-explaining process for why the panels produce more energy (even if the images are not changed much). You could also (if you wanted to leave it as HV) force players to use 'transformers', otherwise any powerlines near the solar panels would be destroyed. And you could always grab images from google and resize them lol
This is a wonderful idea and I will start exploring the topic. Eventually, I will have new names and technologies for each panel, plus new technologies and items to research and craft. I like this a lot and thank you for the input.

Re: [MOD 0.5.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.0 (Realism Update)

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:12 pm
by kovarex
I like this mod, and it needed just one small alteration to make it work in 0.6.4 (adding map_color to quarz ore).
So I made the correction and uploaded the file and added link to first post, I hope you don't mind :)

Re: [MOD 0.5.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.0 (Realism Update)

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:20 pm
by n9103
kovarex wrote:I like this mod, and it needed just one small alteration to make it work in 0.6.4 (adding map_color to quarz ore).
So I made the correction and uploaded the file and added link to first post, I hope you don't mind :)
Now THAT'S what I call Dev support for modders! :D

Re: [MOD 0.6.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.1 (Realism Update)

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:17 pm
by metzyn
Have people actually been liking this mod? And I certainly don't mind it if someone made any changes to it at all. That's the great thing about open-source and community-driven projects.

Re: [MOD 0.6.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.1 (Realism Update)

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:31 pm
by slpwnd
I like this mod a lot, because it adds something that is currently painfully missing in the game.

Re: [MOD 0.6.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.1 (Realism Update)

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:00 pm
by metzyn
That's awesome! I feel bad because I stopped playing the game and haven't updated the mod in quite some time. I just started playing 0.7 today... awesome stuff. Feel free to add this into the game... I'd much rather it be core content than a mod.

Re: [MOD 0.6.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.1 (Realism Update)

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:09 pm
by Nirahiel
I was thinking about getting that mod. But I'm not sure if I should.
I like to over-complicate things and I fear this might make me over-complicate even more :|

Re: [MOD 0.6.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.1 (Realism Update)

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:50 am
by slpwnd
metzyn wrote:Feel free to add this into the game... I'd much rather it be core content than a mod.
Actually we have seriously considered it. In the end we have decided to wait for a new graphics for the solar panel / accumulators. And also we need to figure out what resources we want to have in the game when it is finished and based on that maybe tweak the recipes.
Nirahiel wrote: was thinking about getting that mod. But I'm not sure if I should.
I like to over-complicate things and I fear this might make me over-complicate even more
Actually I think it simplifies things in a sense that you can get away with smaller solar panel / accumulator fields.

Re: [MOD 0.6.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.1 (Realism Update)

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:54 am
by Nirahiel
slpwnd wrote:Actually I think it simplifies things in a sense that you can get away with smaller solar panel / accumulator fields.
That's the thing, I'll still want to make huge / badass looking fields, so i'll have to setup more production lines, and gather more resources :)

Re: [MOD 0.6.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.1 (Realism Update)

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:38 am
by Nirahiel
Does this work with 0.7.x ? :)

Re: [MOD 0.6.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.1 (Realism Update)

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:10 pm
by kovarex
The quartz resources would need to contain the autoplace specification at least.

Re: [MOD 0.6.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.1 (Realism Update)

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:58 pm
by metzyn
I haven't touched this mod for months and have been doing other things, so I have no idea what would need to be done in order to make this 0.7.x compatible. And I am unsure if I will continue its development unless there is enough interest expressed.

Re: [MOD 0.6.x] Solar Expansion v0.3.1 (Realism Update)

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:41 pm
by kovarex
metzyn wrote:I haven't touched this mod for months and have been doing other things, so I have no idea what would need to be done in order to make this 0.7.x compatible. And I am unsure if I will continue its development unless there is enough interest expressed.
It is alright, I will probably update it to the new version, so there are some better energy sources until we make some in the vanilla.