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ZombieMooose wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:42 am

I'd like to say the sounds you've picked for this mod are phenomenal. I've found myself sitting in silence listening to machines run a few times.

I don't have much else to offer besides that other than great work.

Deadlock989 wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:51 am

ZombieMooose wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:42 am

I'd like to say the sounds you've picked for this mod are phenomenal. I've found myself sitting in silence listening to machines run a few times.

I don't have much else to offer besides that other than great work.

I knew absolutely nothing about editing and mixing sounds before I started the mod. freesound.org is the most incredible community resource, you can literally get lost in it, really astonishing generosity. I can now do very basic mixing and on a good day I can turn a sound into a seamless loop ... Audacity is also a very good bit of software considering its price tag of £0.

CDCobra wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:44 am

Hello Deadlock989,

Obviously you did not see my first post. I therefore allow myself to reiterate it.

cicatrix wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:33 am

I don't quite understand how clockwork punkbots work and what they do.
Presumably they're just construction bots but they appear long before robotics. I place them in the air but they simply hang there doing nothing.
What am I missing?

Deadlock989 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:45 am

Heavy armour has a small equipment grid in IR - you need to wear one and put a bronze generator and a bronze roboport in it. The bronze generator needs solid fuel to run, the generator manager can help maintain it once you've stocked the generator up properly the first time.

mathiaszealot wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:36 pm

I wanted to say first that I've been watching and waiting for this mod since I first saw it way back when you just finished assemblers. It's everything I'd hoped for back then and more. Very smooth experience so far. That said, I ran into this today and It got me thinking:


Okay, Which? So it's all the processing, but some of the basic recipes. Do I need to just try all of the basic recipes to see which can be boosted?
This is one of the issues I have that gets exacerbated by mods, that productivity modules are (understandably) restricted to certain recipes, but it isn't always clear which. The core game keeps it to the intermediates, but mods can have recipes all over different tabs based on a buried flag that isn't shown anywhere.

A suggestion for it: Could something similar to the No Use/Redundant Recipes icon overlay be done where recipes that CAN receive a productivity bonus have something like a small red productivity mod and maybe a + sign in the corner? A Quick Mockup:

Not sure if this would make the Processing tab too busy, but would make this error message less ambiguous with a clear marker on which recipes can accept productivity modules.

BlueTemplar wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:47 pm

Which Basic Component recipes cannot use Prod Modules ?

NameLips wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:59 pm

Curses, it looks like loaders aren't working with storage depots.

https://imgur.com/ZiJAlEb

Deadlock989 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:00 pm

In the next version, the flying text will be "Productivity modules cannot be installed for this recipe".

Bilka wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:02 pm

Deadlock989 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:00 pm

In the next version, the flying text will be "Productivity modules cannot be installed for this recipe".

That's pretty close to the vanilla text of "Productivity modules can't be used on this recipe." so you could just not overwrite it and save a few lines of code.

NameLips wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:08 pm

edit: I think it doesn't like them being placed as ghosts/blueprints.

Deadlock989 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:00 pm

BlueTemplar wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:47 pm

Which Basic Component recipes cannot use Prod Modules ?

All of them, it turns out. I think the basic issue is that the flying text is wrong. I think it's a holdover from an early version of the mod, before I battened down all those hatches.

Thinking about it, this is all fraught with issues, which is probably why it's difficult to tell where prod modules can be used even in vanilla.

I'm reluctant to add an overlay icon even to the limited set of recipes that have it, because it's busy, and if something is repeated too often across a grid it just becomes noise. So a recipe description is the safer bet.

Then you have other mods coming along and changing things. So I couldn't ever guarantee that another mod wouldn't add new recipes which also work with productivity, but get missed by the description pass. Come to that, it's entirely possible that another mod would overwrite the entire set of productivity limitations on the modules themselves, in which case, any of descriptions and/or icons I set would then be wrong.

I feel like this is something that should be in the base game, another line on the recipe tooltip. (Then there are still other issues. The property that lets modules work with a recipe doesn't live in the recipe, it lives in the module. So each productivity module essentially has a duplicated copy of the list - you could have, if you wanted, a P1 module working a different set of recipes to a P2 module. Or have multiple sets of P modules with different bonuses and penalties. So what do you say in the recipe description? "Here is a list of the 15 different productivity modules added by the Mega Module 9000 mod?")

In the next version, the flying text will be "Productivity modules cannot be installed for this recipe". If the machine itself has been excluded from using P modules, the message is the default vanilla one, "Productivity module 3 cannot be used in Bronze ore crusher" or some such.

BlueTemplar wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:35 pm

And I feel that if some mod adds new components to your custom tabs, it's on the onus of that mod maker to add the "no Prod" sign themselves ?