[MOD] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Topics and discussion about specific mods
User avatar
Deadlock989
Smart Inserter
Smart Inserter
Posts: 1955
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by Deadlock989 »

darkfrei wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:52 am
Why not normal 1x2 loaders?
Because they suck?

I guess that is option 4, or possibly option 2b - get rid of loaders from the mod completely and just recommend one of the existing 1x2 loader mods.

User avatar
darkfrei
Smart Inserter
Smart Inserter
Posts: 2760
Joined: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:11 pm
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by darkfrei »

Deadlock989 wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:54 am
darkfrei wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:52 am
Why not normal 1x2 loaders?
Because they suck?
Even one express 1x2 loader is better than two best inserters. If someday the vanilla will have them, I want 1x3 loaders because of balance issue. They are too good for this small size.
Last edited by darkfrei on Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Deadlock989
Smart Inserter
Smart Inserter
Posts: 1955
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by Deadlock989 »

Vanilla is never, ever going to have them.

Maybe good news: viewtopic.php?p=476581#p476581

billbo99
Fast Inserter
Fast Inserter
Posts: 119
Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:19 am
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by billbo99 »

Yup 0.18.3 looks to be a good fix for deadlock loaders .. my modified version and test save now work as expected.

shanemadden
Fast Inserter
Fast Inserter
Posts: 127
Joined: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:25 am
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by shanemadden »

Good to hear. 0.18 status:

1) There's still some issues where transport lines from migrated games will end up 'stuck' until they're touched to update them - if you're migrating a save with loaders, there seem to still be some outstanding issues - check that items are flowing, and recreate part of the belt line anywhere in a migrated save where stuff is stuck. viewtopic.php?p=476695#p476695

2) This initial 0.18 release is a quick fix (and important special thanks to billbo99 for testing on 0.18 and reporting the bugs there were) - we'll have a future update that changes the API in a hopefully-backward-compatible way for mipmapped and variable icons.

shanemadden
Fast Inserter
Fast Inserter
Posts: 127
Joined: Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:25 am
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by shanemadden »

3. Go outside and look at flowers and shit.


I keep considering a career change from technology to agriculture and they keep pulling me back in.

User avatar
MakeItGraphic
Fast Inserter
Fast Inserter
Posts: 217
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:53 am
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by MakeItGraphic »

[REDACTED] - For Stupidity

Sorry.

User avatar
MakeItGraphic
Fast Inserter
Fast Inserter
Posts: 217
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:53 am
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by MakeItGraphic »

Posted the wrong thing in the last post.

Not sure what is causing this, or if it effects other buildings. However Angels Warehouses seem to have problems with loaders.
Deadlock Loaders001.png
Deadlock Loaders001.png (1.01 MiB) Viewed 679 times
DeadlockLoaders002.png
DeadlockLoaders002.png (291.56 KiB) Viewed 679 times
DeadlockLoaders003.png
DeadlockLoaders003.png (1.02 MiB) Viewed 679 times
The loaders at the bottom of the building will randomly not work at all when placed. Image 003 it is the middle building.

This is on 0.17.79

User avatar
Deadlock989
Smart Inserter
Smart Inserter
Posts: 1955
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by Deadlock989 »

Some of them are the wrong way round.

User avatar
MakeItGraphic
Fast Inserter
Fast Inserter
Posts: 217
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:53 am
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by MakeItGraphic »

Deadlock989 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:52 pm
Some of them are the wrong way round.
I've tried rotating, and replacing them to no avail. If you look you can see the metal chute is getting stuck on the wrong side, rotating just changes the belt direction, not the chute.

User avatar
MakeItGraphic
Fast Inserter
Fast Inserter
Posts: 217
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:53 am
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by MakeItGraphic »

See attached video [REMOVED]
Last edited by MakeItGraphic on Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:25 pm, edited 2 times in total.

posila
Factorio Staff
Factorio Staff
Posts: 4684
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:35 pm
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by posila »

You can't rotate loaders (nor underground belts, fyi) on ground, you need to place them with chute facing entity you want them load to/unload from and then rotate them to switch between loading/unloading. That's how loaders work.

User avatar
Deadlock989
Smart Inserter
Smart Inserter
Posts: 1955
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by Deadlock989 »

Loaders can't be rotated once placed. The usual rotate key switches their input-output mode instead. That is the way the game engine has always handled loaders. If you want them to point the other way, they have to be picked up and replaced the right way round.

If you are saying that you are placing them the right way round and they are instead snapping to the loader on the other side, preferring it to the container, it may be a bug. We would need a full mod list - ideally a saved game so the mods can be synced - and detailed steps to reproduce.

User avatar
MakeItGraphic
Fast Inserter
Fast Inserter
Posts: 217
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:53 am
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by MakeItGraphic »

Deadlock989 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:43 pm
Loaders can't be rotated once placed. The usual rotate key switches their input-output mode instead. That is the way the game engine has always handled loaders. If you want them to point the other way, they have to be picked up and replaced the right way round.

If you are saying that you are placing them the right way round and they are instead snapping to the loader on the other side, preferring it to the container, it may be a bug. We would need a full mod list - ideally a saved game so the mods can be synced - and detailed steps to reproduce.
Now I feel stupid now, thanks a lot for the assist.

User avatar
MakeItGraphic
Fast Inserter
Fast Inserter
Posts: 217
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:53 am
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by MakeItGraphic »

Can I ask another stupid question sorry.

DEADLOCK_STACKING.PNG
DEADLOCK_STACKING.PNG (73.1 KiB) Viewed 606 times
The 'Stacking Beltbox' how do they work exactly. If I put iron plates manually into the first beltbox it outputs stacked plates. However the loader won't input them, and if I use an inserter to load them they won't output.

Again sorry I'm having such a hard time with this.

User avatar
Deadlock989
Smart Inserter
Smart Inserter
Posts: 1955
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by Deadlock989 »

Loaders can't connect two inventories. They are inventory-to-belt or belt-to-inventory. Stuff has to go in or out of a belt at the belt end. An inventory or a machine with an input slot has to be at the non-belt end.

User avatar
MakeItGraphic
Fast Inserter
Fast Inserter
Posts: 217
Joined: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:53 am
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by MakeItGraphic »

0K, I think I have it now . Thanks for all the help :D
DEADLOCK_STACKING002.PNG
DEADLOCK_STACKING002.PNG (88.3 KiB) Viewed 595 times

hreintke
Fast Inserter
Fast Inserter
Posts: 103
Joined: Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:52 pm
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by hreintke »

Hi,
Question on speed of the beltboxes.
In the description you mention "Each tier of beltbox can handle a fully compressed belt of the same tier."

But when I have an ultimate-tansport-belt, fully filled with stacked items, connected to an ultimate-transport-belt-beltbox, I cannot load three outgoing ultimate-transport-belt's. Made a local patch to increase the beltbox speed and it can handle it.
beltboxspeed.JPG
beltboxspeed.JPG (73.69 KiB) Viewed 534 times
Is that intentional behavior ?

User avatar
Deadlock989
Smart Inserter
Smart Inserter
Posts: 1955
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by Deadlock989 »

I don't know which mod adds support for "ultimate speed beltboxes" or even what an "ultimate-transport-belt" is. Maybe shane knows.

valneq
Filter Inserter
Filter Inserter
Posts: 645
Joined: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:43 am
Contact:

Re: [MOD 0.17] Deadlock's Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders

Post by valneq »

Deadlock989 wrote:
Fri Feb 14, 2020 12:49 pm
I don't know which mod adds support for "ultimate speed beltboxes" or even what an "ultimate-transport-belt" is. Maybe shane knows.
Bob's Logistics provides "ultimate transport belts" as the highest tier of belts, they are colored green. There is another mod, deadlock-integrations by shanemadden, that provides the integration of Stacking Beltboxes & Compact Loaders with Bob's Logistics, adding higher tiers of beltboxes and compact loaders. This probably what hreintke is talking about.

Post Reply

Return to “Mods”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users