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[MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules v0.3.1

Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 3:45 pm
by Mooncat
Type: Mod
Name: Copy & Paste Modules
Description: Lets you also copy and paste modules from a machine to another.
License: GNU LGPLv3
Version: 0.3.1
Release: 2017-6-21
Tested-With-Factorio-Version: 0.15.21
Category: (Helper)
Tags: copy, paste, module
Download-Url: https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Mooncat/ ... te-modules
Website: viewtopic.php?f=97&t=48801
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Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:04 pm
by Nova
That sounds like it should be in the base game. Nice mod, will try it!

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 7:28 pm
by Mooncat
Nova wrote:That sounds like it should be in the base game. Nice mod, will try it!
Thanks! I hope there is an option for this in the base game too. :D

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules

Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 9:32 pm
by ibeatbabybiters
Thank you a thousand times for this. I wished for a simple copy and paste feature ever since I got to use blueprints for the first time. The blueprinting system in itself is such an awesome idea, but the interaction with it is so damn weird. The new blueprint library maybe helps managing tons of blueprints, builtin import/export is also nice, but the actual handling of them is just horrible in my opinion. I don't understand why this was implemented as items in the inventory (my guess would be old code that didn't fit new ideas, like it always is in software development :) especially if you're a small team and not a mega corp with hordes of developers)
I simply hate fiddling with blueprints in the inventory, so I only use them to tile down e.g. mining outposts and train stations, or other "bigger" projects. Maybe I'm just using the current blueprint system wrong all along, but I'm using the quickbar for example and I'm unable to use it efficiently.

I've now played a few hours with your mod, and this feels like inserting Productivity, Speed and Efficiency Modules into my brain. I had so many horrible parts in my factory which I always dreaded to refactor, simply because it would be too annoying to do. But now, with your mod, I got so much done in so little time.

Again thank you and well done. The Devs should integrate this into the base game asap in my opinion, because this would instantly improve gameplay for everyone.

Edit: HAHA I'm so sorry but I posted in the wrong thread :D :D :D The mod I was talking about is Cut n Paste tools: https://mods.factorio.com/mods/mickael9 ... sion/13853

I used it yesterday and wanted to give feedback, so I search for "Copy and Paste" instead of Cut and Paste", and the screenshot looked a bit similar and so I accidentally landed here :D But your mod also looks super useful! I'll definitively try it.

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 7:48 am
by Mooncat
ibeatbabybiters wrote:Thank you a thousand times for this. I wished for a simple copy and paste feature ever since I got to use blueprints for the first time. The blueprinting system in itself is such an awesome idea, but the interaction with it is so damn weird. The new blueprint library maybe helps managing tons of blueprints, builtin import/export is also nice, but the actual handling of them is just horrible in my opinion. I don't understand why this was implemented as items in the inventory (my guess would be old code that didn't fit new ideas, like it always is in software development :) especially if you're a small team and not a mega corp with hordes of developers)
I simply hate fiddling with blueprints in the inventory, so I only use them to tile down e.g. mining outposts and train stations, or other "bigger" projects. Maybe I'm just using the current blueprint system wrong all along, but I'm using the quickbar for example and I'm unable to use it efficiently.

I've now played a few hours with your mod, and this feels like inserting Productivity, Speed and Efficiency Modules into my brain. I had so many horrible parts in my factory which I always dreaded to refactor, simply because it would be too annoying to do. But now, with your mod, I got so much done in so little time.

Again thank you and well done. The Devs should integrate this into the base game asap in my opinion, because this would instantly improve gameplay for everyone.

Edit: HAHA I'm so sorry but I posted in the wrong thread :D :D :D The mod I was talking about is Cut n Paste tools: https://mods.factorio.com/mods/mickael9 ... sion/13853

I used it yesterday and wanted to give feedback, so I search for "Copy and Paste" instead of Cut and Paste", and the screenshot looked a bit similar and so I accidentally landed here :D But your mod also looks super useful! I'll definitively try it.
Are you sure the screenshots are similar? :twisted:
But I agree that mod is good too. ;)

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules

Posted: Tue May 30, 2017 2:04 pm
by ibeatbabybiters
Well, not exactly similar, but both have a building in the screenshot and so I was too quick and confused them :)

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:00 am
by orzelek
Really nice idea - it should be in base game for sure.

Can you also make the mod overwrite modules that are there already and return them to player?
Basically to update modules in all machines I'd need to remove them by hand now still and then copy-paste. It would be nice if mod could remove modules that are in the machine and then paste new ones.

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:13 pm
by Mooncat
orzelek wrote:Really nice idea - it should be in base game for sure.

Can you also make the mod overwrite modules that are there already and return them to player?
Basically to update modules in all machines I'd need to remove them by hand now still and then copy-paste. It would be nice if mod could remove modules that are in the machine and then paste new ones.
Directly inserting the modules back to player will be OP, considering you can copy and paste over long distance. So a valid solution would be using the robots.

Here is a request for removing items from an entity without deconstructing it, but unfortunately it is rejected: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=48634

As a workaround, I think I can spill the modules on the ground and mark them for deconstruction. I think it will look "interesting". :P

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:45 pm
by orzelek
Actually I just noticed that module inserter mod does it somehow.
If you order it to insert modules into building that has them already bots drop new ones and it teleports old ones to inventory when bot drops new one.
Might be worth checking out.

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:36 pm
by Mooncat
orzelek wrote:Actually I just noticed that module inserter mod does it somehow.
If you order it to insert modules into building that has them already bots drop new ones and it teleports old ones to inventory when bot drops new one.
Might be worth checking out.
I somehow kept thinking that you can do copy-and-paste with unlimited distance, so I thought it is cheaty to get the modules back instantly. But it turns out it is limited by reach distance. I has probably played too much creative mode. :lol:
Thanks for the hint. I have briefly checked the mod. But I don't really like to do on_tick in this tiny mod, so I remove the modules right after the paste action, before modules are inserted. It doesn't look bad.
Though I can't spill the module on ground because the API does not return the item entity, I have to create the module at the same position of the machine, so it would be a problem if you want to get that module back without mining the machine.


Released v0.2.0.
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Player take back the replaced modules
Robots take back the replaced modules
Spent some time to create the item insertion flying text. I was surprised that the vanilla flying text is not placeable off grid.

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules v0.2.0

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:20 pm
by orzelek
Ohh nice - new update :D
Is there any practical difference between bots carry module or it appears in inventory ?

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules v0.2.0

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:39 am
by Mooncat
orzelek wrote:Ohh nice - new update :D
Is there any practical difference between bots carry module or it appears in inventory ?
If you want module inserting and replacing to be fully automated, don't want any module appear in your inventory and are too lazy to set the auto-trash slots, bot carry module will be your thing. ;)

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules v0.2.0

Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:53 am
by Factorie
Gonna check this out. Good QOL mod

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules v0.2.1

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:25 pm
by Mooncat
Released v0.2.1. Just a small update:
  • If there are enough modules in your character's inventory, they will be inserted before requests to the robot system are made for the remaining ones.
Since copy-&-paste is limited by reach distance, the same as quick insert, why not just take modules out from the player's inventory when they are needed. :P

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules v0.2.1

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:58 pm
by bNarFProfCrazy
First of all: This is really an awesome mod.

I also have some suggestions for improvements:

1) Also copy the modules, that are not yet delivered to the building.
I usually/always have too few (-3.5k Speed3 + 1.5 Prod3) modules , that why its even hard for me to put enough modules into a single building.
Most of my blueprints already contain the nessesary modules, but of course, some are always missing or a single building needs to be added/rebuild due to space constraints. Then copy pasting the exing factories with their not yet present but requested modules would be nice.

2) Update existing module request markers.
Same exampel as above, I have blueprints with some modules lets say 2x Speed 1, but I want to change them to Speed 3 and Prod 3, currently i have to manually delete the request marker and then paste the modules back. It would be nice if the request marker would be updated/replaced/removed as well.

3) Manually insert modules on pasted structures.
I know this is already partially implemented, and it might be fully implemented by implementing two.
My modules are that laking in quantity that i sometimes have the urge to pickup some modules at the production and just paste them into the module production.
Unfortunately this is quite bothersome, as I can only insert all modules or insert them manually. The specific modules are already requested, but I can not use my personal robots to deliver them, because the robots tend to place them elsewhere. So it would be nice if I "repaste" the module config that the specific modules are taken from my inventory if available.

(I have a megafactory that uses 1-2 express fullstreams of CPUs to produce modules)

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules v0.2.1

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:14 pm
by bNarFProfCrazy
Here are the German (de) translations for your mod.

EDIT: Now using UTF8

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules v0.2.1

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:22 am
by Mooncat
bNarFProfCrazy wrote:First of all: This is really an awesome mod.

I also have some suggestions for improvements: ...
Thanks!

Not 100% sure what your first and third suggestions mean, so please correct me if I'm wrong:

1) Add the ability to copy-and-paste the request marker, so that modules can be copy-and-pasted even if they have not been delivered.

3) Pasting on a machine that already has a module request marker will try to insert the modules from your character inventory.


I think they are all valid and doable. But 3) may not work the same as you think. Whenever a machine is pasted, the settings from the machine that was copied will be used. So if you want to insert the modules, you will need to find the machine that has the same modules to copy from first.

About 2), updating the marker may or may not work. I will need some testing. Worst case will be removing the old marker and creating a new marker. Doing so will make the robots that are on the way cancel their tasks.

(I admit I was a bit lazy when making the mod, so it doesn't work whenever there is a request marker on the pasted machine. :P )

And thanks for the German translation! I will add it in the next update. ;)

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules v0.2.1

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:37 am
by bNarFProfCrazy
Yes, thats exactly what i want.

1) include both the delivered and not yet delivered.

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules v0.2.1

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 5:22 pm
by Mooncat
A few days ago, I have finished updating the mod so it also took care of the item request proxies, but something just didn't feel right...
I figured that its copy-and-paste behaviour is different than the vanilla one.
For vanilla, when you copy an entity and paste to another, the settings in the pasted entity will be "replaced" by the source settings.
However, in our mod, we "add" the source modules to the destination, and only remove modules if there are not enough slots.

So I decided to change it. The third time this mod was redesigned! :lol:
But I don't know whether I'm in a bad condition, or the algorithm is really harder than I thought (mostly caused by the different combinations of mod settings), it took me 2 days to clear my mind and finish implementing it...
And I'm still testing it.
(Maybe I should have submitted the updated version first... :oops: )

Since the mod has been rewritten, the settings are also updated...
@bNarFProfCrazy Sorry I have wasted your translation... If you could translate the following ones, I can include them in the next version. Thanks! :mrgreen:

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[mod-setting-name]
copy-and-paste-modules_enable=Enable copy & paste modules
copy-and-paste-modules_robot-inserts-modules-after-player=    Robot inserts modules after player
copy-and-paste-modules_complete-override=    Complete override
copy-and-paste-modules_replace-unwanted-modules-for-insufficient-slots=        Replace unwanted modules for insufficient slots
copy-and-paste-modules_robot-removes-modules-after-player=    Robot removes modules after player

[mod-setting-description]
copy-and-paste-modules_enable=When you copy the settings of a machine and paste to another one, the modules from the source machine will also be pasted to the destination machine.
copy-and-paste-modules_robot-inserts-modules-after-player=If you don't have enough modules in your inventory, robots will insert the remaining ones for you.
copy-and-paste-modules_complete-override=Those existing or requested modules on the destination machine but not on the source machine will be removed.
copy-and-paste-modules_replace-unwanted-modules-for-insufficient-slots=If there are not enough slots in the destination machine, the unwanted modules will be removed, so that the wanted ones can be inserted.\nThis is used only if Complete override is disabled.
copy-and-paste-modules_robot-removes-modules-after-player=If you don't have enough inventory slot to take anymore removed modules, robots will get the job done.

Re: [MOD 0.15+] Copy & Paste Modules v0.3.0

Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:50 pm
by Mooncat
I have finished testing. So far so good. Not 100% sure it is bugless, but it is working. :P
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