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Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:05 pm
by Mernom
Berkys32 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:38 am
Thank you for your answers. Sadly there was no option to change Y key until I reinstalled your mod. I just wanted you to know
Confused robots - I saw in some mod option to disable roboports when moving. Maybe that could help a little, so I can send vehicle somewhere, than wait until job is done and recall it. I wouldnt mind if confused bot return to logistic network, but now they are sitting in place forewer - until I pick them up manually or remove your mod...
vehicle groups - keys or buttons somewhere. I like using more vehicles and commanding them RTS style, but sometimes you want to control group of specific vehicles...
New pathfinding is really great, even in its "bulldozing" form. Spent few hours setting it up, and finally Im able to have proper setup where I dont need trains
Only thing I cannot solve is different vehicles in same path. Sooner or later faster vehicle catch slower one, and on next waypoint they usually end bumping into each other trying to get to waypoint. Maybe if they dont have to get so close to waypoint, it could help it a little.
And another suggestion - speed limit on paths. I wanted to have haulers on path, followed by chaingunners, but it was a mess, because hauler is much faster, so after a while chaingunners ended stuck somewhere, trying to follow hauler on the other side of base. I know there is SPEED signal, but didnt find way how to use it with Paths...
order your chaingunners to follow the haulers, that way they'll keep pace.
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:56 am
by Berkys32
No they dont, they fall behind...
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:57 am
by millan123ta
My aim was to create blueprints that are UPS-friendly. My knowledge is quite marginal so all i did was reducing the ticks for the scanners and controllers.
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:04 am
by Earendel
The latest update allows you to:
Allow pathfinding on position waypoints. They will start with direct move and pathfinding if they find an obstacle. The default is off because the most likely collision is with another vehicle and often you don't want the vehicle to run around with biter AI in your base. You can also set this with the path control tower using the pathfinding signal.
Allow pathfinding is always enabled for dynamic waypoints because they can move and you can't guarantee a valid direct route.
You can now set a speed limit per path. Originally this was going to be per waypoint but it would be annoying to have to set this for each one. You can also set this with the path control tower using the speed signal.
I've updated the mod to exclude logicarts from vehicle AI. That should make the mods compatible going forwards.
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:23 am
by Mernom
Berkys32 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:56 am
No they dont, they fall behind...
Oh, this MIGHT be a problem then.
millan123ta wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 7:57 am
My aim was to create blueprints that are UPS-friendly. My knowledge is quite marginal so all i did was reducing the ticks for the scanners and controllers.
You could try to use one building to command multiple units. Use timing.
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:24 am
by mrvn
Berkys32 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:56 am
No they dont, they fall behind...
Have the hauler follow the chain gunner until it reaches the target.
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:03 am
by tanuki_san
Crushed when a vehicle that is driven by player is switched AI state to ON running with "Pavement Drive Assist" MOD.
346.863 Error MainLoop.cpp:1035: Exception at tick 3684152: Error while running event aai-programmable-vehicles::on_tick (ID 0)
Error while running event PavementDriveAssist::on_player_driving_changed_state (ID 26)
__PavementDriveAssist__/pda.lua:90: attempt to index a nil value
stack traceback:
__aai-programmable-vehicles__/control.lua:1420: in function 'unit_update_mode'
__aai-programmable-vehicles__/control.lua:4696: in function 'unit_tick'
__aai-programmable-vehicles__/control.lua:4734: in function <__aai-programmable-vehicles__/control.lua:4704
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:23 pm
by Mernom
tanuki_san wrote: ↑Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:03 am
Crushed when a vehicle that is driven by player is switched AI state to ON running with "Pavement Drive Assist" MOD.
346.863 Error MainLoop.cpp:1035: Exception at tick 3684152: Error while running event aai-programmable-vehicles::on_tick (ID 0)
Error while running event PavementDriveAssist::on_player_driving_changed_state (ID 26)
__PavementDriveAssist__/pda.lua:90: attempt to index a nil value
stack traceback:
__aai-programmable-vehicles__/control.lua:1420: in function 'unit_update_mode'
__aai-programmable-vehicles__/control.lua:4696: in function 'unit_tick'
__aai-programmable-vehicles__/control.lua:4734: in function <__aai-programmable-vehicles__/control.lua:4704
I'm pretty sure that those mods conflicting is a known error.
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 12:24 am
by Philip017
hope to see you weigh in on today's FFF specifically about AI movements
viewtopic.php?t=62717
https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-262
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 10:54 pm
by Mernom
Hmm. From what I understand, the changes will allow you to make pathfinding requests, and the assign the calculated path to a unit. This should make it possible to drop the invisible biter approach.
On top of that, general improvements should make it less quirky in general.
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:46 am
by Zanostra
I was driving in a hauler, it was on the AI is always on state ( green button ),
And I let it find a path around cliffs and forests, only this one hauler with me in it.
The yellow dots were trying to find a path and at the corner of the cliffs the pathfinding bumped into a tree.
Not the hauler and me, only the path at the point where the remaining yellow dots go straight to the destination.
The tree got damaged and destroyed, and the pathfinding continued to find a suitable path.
12 seconds later me and my hauler passed the location where the tree was standing before.
I couldn't recreate it, but I thought I should mention it.
( hope this is the right place )
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:11 am
by Earendel
Yes, very excited about this.
Zanostra wrote: ↑Sun Sep 30, 2018 11:46 am
I was driving in a hauler, it was on the AI is always on state ( green button ),
And I let it find a path around cliffs and forests, only this one hauler with me in it.
The yellow dots were trying to find a path and at the corner of the cliffs the pathfinding bumped into a tree.
Not the hauler and me, only the path at the point where the remaining yellow dots go straight to the destination.
The tree got damaged and destroyed, and the pathfinding continued to find a suitable path.
12 seconds later me and my hauler passed the location where the tree was standing before.
I couldn't recreate it, but I thought I should mention it.
( hope this is the right place )
Yeah, so as you know a biter is used to navigate. When biters get stuck in trees they attack it. I tried making a biter without an attack, but that didn't work and if it has an attack of 0 damage it endlessly attacks the tree. I had to allow it to do damage to the tree otherwise it never makes progress. It is a problem that trees occasionally die to invisible biters but it was the only way I could get it to work.
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 1:56 pm
by Mernom
Once you have access to pathfinding requests, the phantom dead trees won't stay, right?
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:58 pm
by thewoodenlego
ok, I am gonna try to say this calmly... what is your mod doing? ok so I had some of the vehicles (chaingunner, flame tank, hauler) for this mod and the signals mod, etc. anyway, to the point. I was walking around and I ,have (now had) a small radar array, went by it and noticed all 9 of the radars were destroyed, nothing but the blueprints of where they were was left. I did check to make sure it wasn't biters infiltration and I have a small patrol roaming on the outside of my base to keep the biters out (the patrol never gets close to the array). any idea what could be causing it. note I do have some other mods on, some small weapons mod and the factorisimo mod. if you want some pics I can get them but it would be a while.
Fixed, must have been a certain mod I had on.
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:55 am
by Berkys32
How are you sure it werent biters? They are atracted to radars...
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:47 pm
by thewoodenlego
Berkys32 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:55 am
How are you sure it werent biters? They are atracted to radars...
the patrol, the turrets I have crawling around the place, and searched the inside of my factory to make sure they weren't there. the patrol would keep most of the biters out. the turrets always have ammo and are in range of it. The game didn't alert me to any invasion either.
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:55 pm
by westamastaflash
How do I delete a path? The current way I've been doing it is deleting every waypoint but this is a real pain in the butt. Is there any way to delete a complete path?
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:55 pm
by thewoodenlego
westamastaflash wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:55 pm
How do I delete a path? The current way I've been doing it is deleting every waypoint but this is a real pain in the butt. Is there any way to delete a complete path?
the easiest I have found is delete the first one.
Edit: completely disregard this post then
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:52 am
by Earendel
westamastaflash wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 4:55 pm
How do I delete a path? The current way I've been doing it is deleting every waypoint but this is a real pain in the butt. Is there any way to delete a complete path?
I will be adding a clear path button.
Re: [MOD 0.14] AAI Programmable Vehicles
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:40 am
by Zanostra
As far as I'm concerned the mod works really neat.
Now I'm trying to combine hauling from miners to depot missions into as few buildings as possible, without the help of tutorials.
I really love the puzzle, and the great feeling when things starting to work
I saw a cosmetic bug though.
Every time a hauler reaches a miner and he gets ores and gives coal for fuel, the ore exchange icon moves from the miner to the hauler.
But the coal icon moves from the hauler to the startingpoint of the map ( 0,0 )
Since int's in the middle of my base, I see coal flying by the whole time
oh, and just this error appeared:
{
Error while running event aai-programmable-structures::on_tick (ID 0)
LuaEquipment doesn't contain key unit_number.
stack traceback:
__aai-programmable-structures__/control.lua:84: in function 'struct_find_from_entity'
__aai-programmable-structures__/control.lua:1355: in function <__aai-programmable-structures__/control.lua:1340>
}
this only happens sometimes when the robots from a crawler are building a blueprint while you have the burner generator GUI of it open.
I can replicate it a few times, but I don't know what exact conditions do, so I can't make a save file with it going to happen.