[MOD 0.12.x] Smarter Circuitry

dandielo · Post by **dandielo** » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:47 am

Hey there, I was playing around your mod a bit and got after some time a weird bug with 'sensors'

Actually the bug report was telling me something about no 'x' key in the LuaEntity class, so I've looked into your code a bit and made a fix for it (seems like you got that bug earlier too)

Link to the Github comparison + made a pull request
https://github.com/Kikkers/Factorio-Sma ... b402bf488e

Smoovious · Post by **Smoovious** » Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:04 pm

I have used the directional sensor quite often, and find there are a few more types of detections I would find very useful, such as...

* How many of a specific type of bot is in the network, and how many are available. (mainly for use with mods, such as Bob's, which have mk2/3/4 bots) Currently, I can only detect how many are in the logistics inventory with it.

* How much available space is left in the chest/railcar. Since different items have different stack sizes it is pretty much impossible to do this simply, but if the number returned is telling me the # of empty stack slots, that would be plenty. Also finding the # of occupied stack slots would be useful too. I can live with not-quite-full stacks. (actually, this one I would want, more than the above detection)

-- Smoov

JasonC · Post by **JasonC** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 8:05 am

I don't think the actuators work on trains.

In the example save game in 0.12.29 the actuators don't seem to have any effect on the train in the middle. Looking at the circuits what I think is supposed to be happening is the train holds until it loads 200 ore, then moves on, then holds until it unloads completely, then moves on. But what actually happens in the example is the train stops for 0 seconds up top and 5 at the bottom as it is programmed to do, instead of obeying the sensor / actuator logic.

Or maybe it's the sensor that doesn't work. The directional sensors pointed at the train in the example file never show any output signal, regardless of what's in the train.

Either way something isn't right.

troonie · Post by **troonie** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:25 pm

Lukea153 wrote:I have a suggestion, can you add a Signal Delayer which waits a specified number of ticks?

You can build signal delayer with a few combinators

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=23639

troonie · Post by **troonie** » Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:28 pm

JasonC wrote:I don't think the actuators work on trains.

In the example save game in 0.12.29 the actuators don't seem to have any effect on the train in the middle. Looking at the circuits what I think is supposed to be happening is the train holds until it loads 200 ore, then moves on, then holds until it unloads completely, then moves on. But what actually happens in the example is the train stops for 0 seconds up top and 5 at the bottom as it is programmed to do, instead of obeying the sensor / actuator logic.

Or maybe it's the sensor that doesn't work. The directional sensors pointed at the train in the example file never show any output signal, regardless of what's in the train.

Either way something isn't right.

Both sensor and actuator do not work appropriately. They work when you build them first while the train is at the station. But when the train leaves, and then arrives again, they do not work any more.

For sensor, I've found a workaround in 0.12.29: just setup pressure plate under the track (remove the sensor and the track piece first, then build plates, then re-build sensor to point at the plates, ONLY THEN re-build the track)

But I'm still struggling to make actuator work

nmid · Post by **nmid** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:44 am

Hi,

Posting in the correct thread now

Can I make the sensor work on liquids in a tank?
I want to be able to sense a full tank, after which the electric switch will turn on cracking of heavy oil to light oil.

I'll try the sensor plate combo under the tank and see if that works.

mrtux · Post by **mrtux** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:37 pm

The fix mentioned two pages earlier does not work for you?
viewtopic.php?p=128515#p128515

nmid · Post by **nmid** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:00 pm

mrtux wrote:The fix mentioned two pages earlier does not work for you?
viewtopic.php?p=128515#p128515

Sorry, I skim checked the 11 pages of this thread for liquid handling but didn't find anything. I might have missed it or references to it, using similar concepts?
I haven't yet started a full fledged train network and the only posts in the past 2-3 pages were about trains.

I started playing in 2014, I took a 2 year break and have 30 hours in my current map.

Edit
Used the decider combinator + electric switch to solve my problem.
Wasn't able to use the directional sensor to give me a reading on the storage tank liquid.

JasonC · Post by **JasonC** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:03 pm

mrtux wrote:The fix mentioned two pages earlier does not work for you?
viewtopic.php?p=128515#p128515

Yeah I got lost in the 11 pages, too. Didn't read the novel, sorry.

I wouldn't really expect a normal human to find that needle in this haystack. If the original author has moved on to other things, maybe a branch with fixes could be made in viewforum.php?f=120

Zeeth_Kyrah · Post by **Zeeth_Kyrah** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:01 pm

nmid wrote:Hi,

Posting in the correct thread now

Can I make the sensor work on liquids in a tank?
I want to be able to sense a full tank, after which the electric switch will turn on cracking of heavy oil to light oil.

I'll try the sensor plate combo under the tank and see if that works.

There was a change that allows tanks to now be part of the vanilla game's signal network. Just connect them with colored wire and you'll be okay.

mrtux · Post by **mrtux** » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:33 am

JasonC wrote:
mrtux wrote:The fix mentioned two pages earlier does not work for you?
viewtopic.php?p=128515#p128515
Yeah I got lost in the 11 pages, too. Didn't read the novel, sorry.

I wouldn't really expect a normal human to find that needle in this haystack. If the original author has moved on to other things, maybe a branch with fixes could be made in viewforum.php?f=120

This would basically mean that somebody forks the projects and creates a new mod (with thread) based on this mod. I cannot really commit to this, as I have only sporadically time for this.

You're totally right, nobody would find this post. I only remembered posting the solution once and – since I would not find it in this haystack, too - reposted the link.

Unifire · Post by **Unifire** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:42 pm

I was wondering if someone could get a train to stop with an actautor when it's driving? i want to create a railcrossing where if i'm going to walk near and on the tracks that the oncoming trains stop for me instead of watching out for a train that comes by, anybody know if this is possible with this mod or any other mod?

JasonC · Post by **JasonC** » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:12 pm

Unifire wrote:I was wondering if someone could get a train to stop with an actautor when it's driving? i want to create a railcrossing where if i'm going to walk near and on the tracks that the oncoming trains stop for me instead of watching out for a train that comes by, anybody know if this is possible with this mod or any other mod?

I don't know if it's possible with this mod but another approach is to build a gate at the crossing for you to walk through, and make it close when a train is coming using the pressure pads, so you can't cross.

If you try to stop the trains you'll still get hit if you cross the tracks while the train is closer than its stopping distance, which can be pretty large.

Unifire · Post by **Unifire** » Thu Apr 28, 2016 10:16 pm

JasonC wrote:
Unifire wrote:I was wondering if someone could get a train to stop with an actautor when it's driving? i want to create a railcrossing where if i'm going to walk near and on the tracks that the oncoming trains stop for me instead of watching out for a train that comes by, anybody know if this is possible with this mod or any other mod?
I don't know if it's possible with this mod but another approach is to build a gate at the crossing for you to walk through, and make it close when a train is coming using the pressure pads, so you can't cross.

If you try to stop the trains you'll still get hit if you cross the tracks while the train is closer than its stopping distance, which can be pretty large.

thx for the tip

NoriSilverrage · Post by **NoriSilverrage** » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:15 pm

Just gotta say, the directional switch is amazingly useful with the Hardcrafting mod. I can use it to monitor a belt and connect some smart inserters to add or remove excess materials as needed.

Smoovious · Post by **Smoovious** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:37 am

NoriSilverrage wrote:Just gotta say, the directional switch is amazingly useful with the Hardcrafting mod. I can use it to monitor a belt and connect some smart inserters to add or remove excess materials as needed.

yeah, I use it a lot too, but to reverse the belt leading from a mining site if I have plenty of that ore already, only letting ore pass if my base is low.

I would like to see something more documentation tho... for instance, what is the 'filter' for on it? and what signals does it output? If I have a couple lamps wired to it (say, a red and green one), can I set conditions on the lamp's circuit-network setting to light the green lamp and red lamp to see if an ore deposit is sending material or not? (and if not, could you?

)

-- Smoov

mrtux · Post by **mrtux** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:47 pm

Smoovious wrote:I would like to see something more documentation tho... for instance, what is the 'filter' for on it? and what signals does it output? If I have a couple lamps wired to it (say, a red and green one), can I set conditions on the lamp's circuit-network setting to light the green lamp and red lamp to see if an ore deposit is sending material or not? (and if not, could you? )

-- Smoov

You mean you want solutions for your puzzles? As far as I have seen, all the elements provided by this mod are documented, are they not?
The rest is for you to find out. This is Factorio!

Smoovious · Post by **Smoovious** » Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:34 pm

mrtux wrote:
Smoovious wrote:I would like to see something more documentation tho... for instance, what is the 'filter' for on it? and what signals does it output? If I have a couple lamps wired to it (say, a red and green one), can I set conditions on the lamp's circuit-network setting to light the green lamp and red lamp to see if an ore deposit is sending material or not? (and if not, could you? )

-- Smoov
You mean you want solutions for your puzzles? As far as I have seen, all the elements provided by this mod are documented, are they not?
The rest is for you to find out. This is Factorio!

I want, at the very least, to have things documented... such as the 'filter' on the actuator.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to know how an item functions. It is up to us to figure out what we're going to end up doing with it.

and no... they aren't all documented (or at least, not all in the same place, like the first post of this thread)... if they were, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

-- Smoov

mrtux · Post by **mrtux** » Sun May 01, 2016 1:39 pm

Okay. I guess we have different requirements for the documentation. What might be added is something along the lines of: "The filter condition decides if the actuator 'toggles'. They work similar to activation conditions on the smart inserter."

On hindsight I figure that's the part I tried out and I still try out when building a new setup because I cannot be bothered with remembering that stuff.

The whole discussion also makes me wonder if the first post in a forum is the best place for documentation. It seems that the original maintainer is no longer around or can no longer put time into this mod, so the first post can no longer be modified. Maybe this problem disappears once there is a mod platform? (Getting off-topic here...)

FaeDine · Post by **FaeDine** » Sun May 01, 2016 8:49 pm

Getting the following error when loading the Actuator mod in multiplayer. Running in dedicated server mode on 0.12.32. Happy to provide more info if needed.

Running quite a few mods, but this is the only one that seems to prevent the server from loading.

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  25.259 Error MultiplayerManager.cpp:110: MultiplayerManager failed: "Unknown key:"Error while running the on_init: __actuator__/control.lua:30: Error while running the event handler: __research-queue__/control.lua:181: attempt to call global 'find_entity' (a nil value)""
  25.269 Info MultiplayerManager.cpp:913: networkTick(0) mapTick(-1) changing state from(CreatingGame) to(InitializationFailed)
  25.275 Error Main.cpp:340: Couldn't load the game for MP: Unknown key:"Error while running the on_init: __actuator__/control.lua:30: Error while running the event handler: __research-queue__/control.lua:181: attempt to call global 'find_entity' (a nil value)"

Full list of mods in use (minus actuator).

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advanced-logistics-system_0.2.12.zip
autofill_1.3.12.zip
AutoTrash_0.0.55.zip
blueprint-string_2.3.1.zip
blueprint_flipper_0.1.4.zip
color-coding_1.0.7.zip
electric-switch_0.4.9.zip
EvoGUI_0.4.15.zip
FARL_0.5.25.zip
fluid-barrel_1.0.0.zip
GDIW_1.1.2.zip
gravestone-mod_1.0.3.zip
K&L-Inserters_0.2.0.zip
Landfill_2.1.7.zip
Larger Inventory_1.0.0.zip
Logistics Railway_1.0.4.zip
long-reach_0.0.4.zip
marathon_1.0.2.zip
micro-accumulator_0.4.9.zip
mod-list.json
mods.txt
pressure-floor_0.4.9.zip
RailTanker_1.2.2.zip
Rescaled-Evolution-Factor_1.3.0.zip
research-queue_1.2.5.zip
rso-mod_1.5.2.zip
sensor_0.4.9.zip
SmartTrains_0.3.82.zip
Squeak Through_1.0.0.zip
STRS_0.0.5.zip
TheFatController_0.3.17.zip
TreeSaplings_0.1.2.zip
upgrade-planner_1.1.9.zip
Warehousing_0.0.7.zip
YARM_0.7.15.zip

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