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I'll update it. Suggestions as to what to add is also welcome.

UberWaffe wrote:

tjmonk15 wrote:

Had you already researched alien technology before installing the mod? It appears I have a problem in my migration scripts.
See my reply below to @hitzu, if that is the case.

If not, can you tell me what version of the mod you are using?

UberWaffe wrote:

GotLag wrote:A minor quibble about the name: if you're going to massively increase the cost/time requirements, don't call it a tweak. Or a rebalance. Call it Science Cost Increaser or something like that. Tweaker sounds like it's making some small adjustments in a few places. Maybe cheaper, maybe more expensive, maybe both.

I'll try and make it more clear in the topic name.

tjmonk15 wrote: Started a brand new game (MP) after getting all the mods together. Running 0.12.6 of the mod (according to the in-game mods menu)

- Monk

P.S. Full list of mods, just FYI:

Landfill
Larger Inventory
MoreLight
Ore Expansion
Rail Tanker
Resource-Monitor-Mod
ScienceCostTweaker Mod
TiTaN's Mod
Treefarm-Lite
Blueprint String
Boxing
Fluid Barrel
Peace Mod
AlienPlant
Treefarm-AC

"dependencies": ["base >= 0.12.0","? bobelecoveride >= 0.12.0","? UberTweaks >= 0.0.1", "? peacemod"]

GotLag wrote:Sorry if I came across as a bit abrupt. I had some frustrating encounters with people in the Space Engineers forums who wanted the developers to nerf certain features into uselessness, and when that didn't happen they released nerfing mods with names like "tweak" or "rebalance", with the implication being that if you don't use the mod you're a lesser player. There's also a lot of this attitude in the Minecraft modding scene, see Gregtech for an example.

I don't mean to accuse you of this kind of pseudo-elitism, but just to explain where I'm coming from.

UberWaffe wrote:

tjmonk15 wrote:...

Thanks for the information. I'll try and find out which mod combo is causing the strange interaction.

EDIT 1: I've setup the same mod-pack and I can reproduce the problem. Busy looking into it now.

EDIT 2: As you suspected, it is the Peacemod 0.1.1 mod. The fix is to add it as a dependency in the Science Cost Tweaker mod. I.e:

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"dependencies": ["base >= 0.12.0","? bobelecoveride >= 0.12.0","? UberTweaks >= 0.0.1", "? peacemod"]

I'll include the fix in the next version of the mod.

tjmonk15 wrote: No such luck for me. Unzipped and have the mod in a folder, added the dependency for peacemod and still can't find the processors for the purple science pack. Just to make sure I am not blind, where exactly do they show up? I would assume right after the pieces for the blue science pack?

Any other ideas?

- Monk

Edit: Works after enabling the recipes through the console. I guess because of the issue you pointed out ^, when I researched alien tech, it didn't unlock the recipes correctly.

safan wrote:the bob's version may not be reasonable:

to automate green potions you need the assembler 2 with the electronic circuits that need solder. To have access to solder you need 600 green potions.

also note that bob's updated elecoverhaul to electronics.

gr.

safan wrote:the bob's version may not be reasonable:

to automate green potions you need the assembler 2 with the electronic circuits that need solder. To have access to solder you need 600 green potions.

also note that bob's updated elecoverhaul to electronics.

gr.

cpy wrote:Alien science pack cost does not seem to work, with 0.12.7 version.
Everything in tier10 seem to be scaled i set 8x red green blue alien and everything is 8x except alien pack.

cpy wrote:Is it me or tier 3 lab or maybe others too (i haven really tested them all or noticed) is too damn fast. I mean i have 150s research time and it can do it in 10s without modules. Only with 2 lab speed upgrades.

cpy wrote:Is it me or tier 3 lab or maybe others too (i haven really tested them all or noticed) is too damn fast. I mean i have 150s research time and it can do it in 10s without modules. Only with 2 lab speed upgrades.

hoho wrote:I have to correct myself. I just had a test with ElectroChemics lab vs Full Spectrum Atomics lab and the latter ideed runs faster, ~2.5x faster in fact. My misconception came from me not having upgraded my labs to tier three.
I'm running with a metric ton of mods and this one is configured at "normal" settings.

I believe the "problem" comes from the speed of science labs being a function of power usage. Each next tier of labs consumes more power and is able to chew through science packs at faster the rate. I'm almost certain it's a limitation in the base engine of the game. If you don't want to have super-fast labs then the power usage of them has to be scaled back.

cpy wrote:My idea of lab speed is same, i think more power it eats, faster it goes. I have to test it but i haven't had much time with factorio in last few days.