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Avloren wrote:I tried out the dart turrets in a new game, I like them - they fill a certain early game niche perfectly. Gun turrets are effective against everything until you start seeing medium biters, who have too much physical resist even for piercing ammo to be practical. Piercing darts do a better job at holding them off until you have lasers, which can take a while on marathon.

kaonik wrote:I'm playing multiplayer on 16.16 and it seems that alien kills don't drop the small artifacts? Is this intended? Any fix for it?

OvermindDL1 wrote:Got an error on loading a new game:

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 205.288 Error ServerMultiplayerManager.cpp:95: MultiplayerManager failed: "Error while running on_init: Error while running event Natural_Evolution_Buildings::on_research_finished (ID 18)
__Natural_Evolution_Buildings__/control.lua:556: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'deduction_constant' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
        ...mapps/common/Factorio/temp/currently-playing/control.lua:787: in function 'set_research'
        ...mapps/common/Factorio/temp/currently-playing/control.lua:122: in function 'init_forces'
        ...mapps/common/Factorio/temp/currently-playing/control.lua:22: in function <...mapps/common/Factorio/temp/currently-playing/control.lua:19>"

NEBuildings 8.0.6

TheSAguy wrote:This seems to be a Factorio issue to do with Scenarios. See post here.

OvermindDL1 wrote:

TheSAguy wrote:This seems to be a Factorio issue to do with Scenarios. See post here.

Well, that thread is causing quite a commotion. ^.^;

jape3 wrote:One part of the problem code seems to be function On_Change_Setup(), which ends up being called on on_configuration_changed(f) event. It looks like copying initial values to game.map_settings.enemy_expansion breaks sync..

We got another desync by trying to join a game that had been running a while after loading from saved game. A save + load and joining right after that solved that problem so we didn't bother to hunt for that bug at least for now.

jape3 wrote:We got another desync by trying to join a game that had been running a while after loading from saved game. A save + load and joining right after that solved that problem so we didn't bother to hunt for that bug at least for now.

orzelek wrote:Bio-cannon could use an upgrade now - it could be changed to reuse artilliery and it wouldn't need a targetting script then.
It might be a lot of work.. I didn't look how complex is artilliery definition.

Avloren wrote:I tried out the dart turrets in a new game, I like them - they fill a certain early game niche perfectly. Gun turrets are effective against everything until you start seeing medium biters, who have too much physical resist even for piercing ammo to be practical. Piercing darts do a better job at holding them off until you have lasers, which can take a while on marathon.

mrvn wrote:

orzelek wrote:Bio-cannon could use an upgrade now - it could be changed to reuse artilliery and it wouldn't need a targetting script then.
It might be a lot of work.. I didn't look how complex is artilliery definition.

Do we even need a biocannon?

Wouldn't it be enough to have different ammo for the artillery?

mrvn wrote:

Avloren wrote:I tried out the dart turrets in a new game, I like them - they fill a certain early game niche perfectly. Gun turrets are effective against everything until you start seeing medium biters, who have too much physical resist even for piercing ammo to be practical. Piercing darts do a better job at holding them off until you have lasers, which can take a while on marathon.

I love the dart turrets too, due to their range. They have a larger range than gun turrets, larger range than the alien worms at the beginning. So you can snipe at them from a distance. Maybe a bit overkill, certainly makes the gun turrets useless for me.

Houyami wrote:I get the following error when trying to boot into 0.16.29 With Natural Evolution Enemies enabled https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png

TheSAguy wrote:

Houyami wrote:I get the following error when trying to boot into 0.16.29 With Natural Evolution Enemies enabled https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png

Thanks, should be fixed in 8.1.1.

mrvn wrote:

Avloren wrote:I tried out the dart turrets in a new game, I like them - they fill a certain early game niche perfectly. Gun turrets are effective against everything until you start seeing medium biters, who have too much physical resist even for piercing ammo to be practical. Piercing darts do a better job at holding them off until you have lasers, which can take a while on marathon.

I love the dart turrets too, due to their range. They have a larger range than gun turrets, larger range than the alien worms at the beginning. So you can snipe at them from a distance. Maybe a bit overkill, certainly makes the gun turrets useless for me.

Mylon wrote:I got an desync error on player join using Natural Evolution suite. When I disabled Natural Evolution Expansion, the error went away. Please check for use of math.random() in odd places in your mod, especially in the data stage!

	enemy_expansion.max_expansion_distance = global.max_expansion_distance_G / 2	
	enemy_expansion.friendly_base_influence_radius = global.friendly_base_influence_radius_G	
	enemy_expansion.enemy_building_influence_radius = global.enemy_building_influence_radius_G	
	
	enemy_expansion.settler_group_min_size = global.settler_group_min_size_G / 2
	enemy_expansion.settler_group_max_size = global.settler_group_max_size_G / 2
	---
	enemy_expansion.building_coefficient = global.building_coefficient_G
	enemy_expansion.other_base_coefficient = global.other_base_coefficient_G
	enemy_expansion.neighbouring_chunk_coefficient = global.neighbouring_chunk_coefficient_G
	enemy_expansion.neighbouring_base_chunk_coefficient = global.neighbouring_base_chunk_coefficient_G
	---
	unit_group.max_group_radius = global.max_group_radius_G
	unit_group.min_group_radius = global.min_group_radius_G