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Nullius, latest patch broke Asteroid Mining?
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:42 pm
by fusion_future
I launched my first ever asteroid miner in a rocket and got nothing. Double checked the silo, insertor, and chest. I launched a second one and again nothing. I'm assuming there's a 100% chance to get one of the six resource guide drones?
Re: Nullius, latest patch broke Asteroid Mining?
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:00 pm
by Anachrony
There isn't a 100% chance. The odds add up to 100%, but are independent of one another. There's a chance you could get unlucky on each independent roll and get nothing. There's also a chance you could get very lucky and get all of them. There's a 1% chance that your very first asteroid miner gets both uranium and copper, for instance (10% chance each).
This randomness is a built in mechanic for recipes. It's just how random recipe results are implemented, not a choice by the mod. Over the long run it should balance out so it doesn't really matter. But in the short term it's a crap shoot.
Re: Nullius, latest patch broke Asteroid Mining?
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:38 am
by fusion_future
Anachrony wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 11:00 pm
There isn't a 100% chance. The odds add up to 100%, but are independent of one another. There's a chance you could get unlucky on each independent roll and get nothing. There's also a chance you could get very lucky and get all of them. There's a 1% chance that your very first asteroid miner gets both uranium and copper, for instance (10% chance each).
This randomness is a built in mechanic for recipes. It's just how random recipe results are implemented, not a choice by the mod. Over the long run it should balance out so it doesn't really matter. But in the short term it's a crap shoot.
Figured I had bad luck so I launched another two and got nothing. Four launches and nothing. Am I just super unlucky?
Re: Nullius, latest patch broke Asteroid Mining?
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:54 am
by Anachrony
The odds of getting 0 result from an asteroid miner 1 is just under 1/3. The odds of doing it 4 times in a row are just over 1%, comparable to the odds of getting both a uranium and copper on your first launch. 1% chances do happen sometimes. About 1% of the time.
Re: Nullius, latest patch broke Asteroid Mining?
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:55 pm
by fusion_future
After the 6th launch I finally got a guide drone. Roughly speaking, going off the info you provided that was a .0014 chance of happening (1/3)^6. Nothing like starting off with bad variance, though this is an interesting game mechanic. Thanks!