[MOD 0.15]10x Harder

[withers]

DESCRIPTION: Makes the game 10x Harder and more.
Download-Url: https://mods.factorio.com/mods/withers/10xHarder

Just dropping this in here in case anyone wants to talk about it. It's basically another "marathon".

Long description

Long description

This mod makes it take 10x more ingredients to expand the base. The ingredient scaling is customizable in the game settings. It works on the base game plus any mods installed mods by auto-detecting any placeable entities in the game, including from any mods installed, and applying the appropriate adjustment to the recipe. It's kind of like the marathon mod, but I left all the intermediate items alone (plates, gears, inserters, belts, etc). Instead I focused on the "place-able" building type products, like drills, assemblers and things. The goal was to make your life a living hell and also make the game take much longer and require massive sprawling factories that need a rail network, but not interfere with the balancing of intermediate products done by other mods. Recipes that use a lower tier of itself as an ingredient do not have that ingredient factored up. (i.e. Assembling Machine 3 does not cost 20 Assembling Machine 2's)

This mod also increases how long it takes to assemble the final products. (again, intermediates left alone) . The duration in seconds is the total quantity of all the ingredients divided by 10.

HOW DOES THIS MOD INTERACT WITH THE DIFFICULTY SETTINGS IN THE BASE GAME?

The ingredient factor is placed on top of the settings. If you set to "normal", you'll get normal ingredients x10. If you set to "expensive", you get expensive ingredients x10. Of course you can set the factor to whatever you want in the game settings so get pretty much total control of how expensive place-able items are.

SETTING OPTIONS

Recipe Scaling Factor: Most placeable entities will have their recipe ingredients multiplied by this number. (except for lower tier versions used in the recipe). Default is 10. You can also set to less then 1 for easier recipes.

Misc Tweaks: If checked, a few additional recipes will be changed. Wooden, iron and steel chests will be reverted to less ingredients. Rail will be same as vanilla be cost more stone. I may add to this over time.

Nerf Fuel Values: If checked, all items that can be used as fuel will have their fuel value reduced by 50%.

Nerf Solar Panels: If checked, all solar panels will have their power output reduced by 75%.

Machinery Add-On: If checked, enables machinery add-on. All gears in recipes are replaced with machinery.

MACHINERY ADD-ON

This is an optional (experimental) add-on which I am still testing and replaces most gears in entity recipes with machinery. Machinery is craft-able with a mixed bag of gears, plates, misc materials, and even fluids like lubricants and some of those angels fluids that I can't even pronounce. If you have bobs and angels installed, there are 6 tiers of machinery with multiple ways to craft. You can gain "early access" to each tier by using a simpler (lower tech) recipe, but at the cost of a lot more materials. If you don't have both angels and bobs installed, you'll only get the basic machinery (not all the extra tiers).

Screen shots

Screen Shots
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Version history

Version history
1.1.1-----Added in-game settings. Made it compatible with AAI Industry

1.1.0-----Update to factorio v.15. Machinery add-on disabled by default.

1.0.7------Solar panels producing MW will no longer be converted to kW if you nerf solar panels.

1.0.6------Fixed a bug that was preventing the mod from loading unless both Angels and Bobs are installed.

1.0.5------Cleaned up code to be more flexible. Can now use decimals in the difficulty factor. Solar and fuel value config options now affect any mods as well. Added tweak config and adjusted a few recipes. Better machinery icons. Rearranged some of the unlocking tech for machinery.

1.0.4------Fixed issue with unlocking basic machinery.

1.0.3------Overhauled code again to make it compatible with everything. Added machinery add-on.

1.0.2------Added config to nerf solar power.

1.0.1 ----- Overhauled the code to make the changes via script and also not require any mods to be installed. Added support for angels bio-processing. Added configuration options.

[Derringer]

I just started a game with a gigantic mod set (Bob's, Angel's, AAI and Yuoki's for starters, along with this, Wear and Tear, and Leveled Enemies) and noticed a couple of quirks.

Power poles get their cost increased, but inserters and belts apparently don't. This creates some unusual early game incentives to move the material to where the power is instead of vice versa. Is this intended or just emergent?

Wooden power poles also suffer the indignity of requiring multiplied wood without carrying a multiplied fuel value on the back end.

[withers]

Yeah poles were borderline for me as to whether to make them "harder" or not. I decided to leave them in for consistency. (they are large and approaching the same scale as buildings) Inserters and belts I excluded because they are small and you need so many of them. I felt they should be cheap in comparison to buildings. Also, I think inserters are used in some other recipes (making it an "intermediate" product, and a prime rule of thumb was not to scale anything that's used in other recipes.

There are some lists in functions.lua you can tweak to your liking.

Next time I update, I'll see about making customization a little more user-friendly.

A goal for this mod was simplicity, with one value to scale all "building-like" entities. I tried to avoid getting into the weeds of tweaking every single recipe, although that's unavoidable in some cases.

[Derringer]

Yeah, poles are kind of an odd case. My first thought would be to leave the 1x1 poles alone and scale the larger ones, but the lines get really blurry with things like Bob's mk4 medium pole which is almost a compact substation.

[aklesey1]

Hi withers
I have some conflict with shinyicons mod

Shinyicons mod changing ur recipe for belt (with basic machinery) from ur recipe to vanilla recipe (removing basic machinery and puting vanilla iron gear)
This bug occurs when i'm installing shinyicons 0.15.5 or older version

I thought shinyicons is guilty of this bug but author can't fix it so i'm asking for u
https://mods.factorio.com/mods/Zombiee/ ... sion/19721

[withers]

I'm not 100% clear on what you mean but the belts should be using regular gears and be unchanged from vanilla. I have them in the "do_not_touch" list meaning they won't get their ingredients multiplied, or get gears swapped out for machinery. If you want them to use machinery and be scaled up, you could remove them from that list (it's in prototypes/functions.lua).

[aklesey1]

I'm not 100% clear on what you mean but the belts should be using regular gears and be unchanged from vanilla. I have them in the "do_not_touch" list meaning they won't get their ingredients multiplied, or get gears swapped out for machinery. If you want them to use machinery and be scaled up, you could remove them from that list (it's in prototypes/functions.lua).

I'm sorry its looks like shinyicons makes use basic machinery for belts

Just tell me - did u replace iron gears to machinery?

Bcuz when i'm toggling off shinyicons this recipe is going back to vanilla recipe without basic machinery with it, just before I did not notice that the basic machinery is used in recipe for belt
So i'm toggled off any mods which affecting on belt recipe excepting ur mod and this recipe work like vanilla recipe - no basic machinery in recipe

[withers]

Oh I see what happened. Shinyicons changes the names of all the subgroups, and 10x relies on those names to determine whether or not to alter the recipe.

I'll see about maybe having it search for the word "belts" in the name, rather then an exact match. That should fix 90 percent of the cases where someone tinkers with the subgroup names.

[aklesey1]

I like ideas from aai indusrtry - to use motors for our devices and i like idea with machinery for devices
So i want back my belts with machinery

[aklesey1]

Update not fully working, not working with belts

If you want them to use machinery and be scaled up, you could remove them from that list (it's in prototypes/functions.lua).

I'll try this, if it'll not working, may be i'l continue to use shiny icon 0.15.4 where this issue is not occurs
Do u checked ur update with shinyicons by urself?

[aklesey1]

Ok manipulation with "don't touch list" is working
Before:

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 HarderA.do_not_touch_list = {"circuit-network", "belt", "inserter", "energy-pipe-distribution", "pipe-to-ground", "addon-fast-inserter", "addon-stack-inserter", "addon-walls", "concrete-wall", "addon-mines2", "addon-underground-belts", "addon-loader", "addon-splitters", "flow-control-1", "addon-splitters", "pipe"} 

After:

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 HarderA.do_not_touch_list = {"circuit-network", "energy-pipe-distribution", "pipe-to-ground", "addon-walls", "concrete-wall", "addon-mines2", "flow-control-1", "addon-splitters", "pipe"} 

Thanks
I began to use ur mod because i'm using pack with - bob's + angel's + one new awesome mod - viewtopic.php?f=94&t=32272 - py coal processing or PYCP

This mod can be technically compatible with AAI industry but i can't start bcuz AAI industry forcing to use burner devices first but py coal processing hasn't that items

Ur machinery addon has similar ideas with AAI industries - and its brought some piece of realism in game, yeah i must say AAI industry more realistic than machineries but u're using resources from angel's and bob's and its more right

[aklesey1]

Hi withers
I have question about transport belts mk3:
Why you made the decision not to add advanced machinery- when dont touch list is modified - and belt mk3 uses first type of machnery - i want i challenge u know !!!