Development and Discussion

[Arch666Angel]

I see the issue, the migration is trying to check if the technology is researched, but if you don't have petrochem, the tech isn't there in the first place, so it will error out. Need to add another sanity check there and upload a fix.

[TheDoctor89]

Wanted to start mining Uranium and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Why aren't the miners mining? http://i.imgur.com/VPO30fv.png http://i.imgur.com/RdHORGo.png
Help would be appreciated!

[Mobius1]

Wanted to start mining Uranium and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Why aren't the miners mining?

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Help would be appreciated!

Place a converter valve after the pump and before the mining drill. Uranium mining requires vanilla sulfuric acid instead of angel's sulfuric acid so placing a converter valve enables them to work.

[TheDoctor89]

Wanted to start mining Uranium and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Why aren't the miners mining?

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Help would be appreciated!

Place a converter valve after the pump and before the mining drill. Uranium mining requires vanilla sulfuric acid instead of angel's sulfuric acid so placing a converter valve enables them to work.

That worked, thank you!

[Mobius1]

I managed to port JAX-35 Pressure tank to 0.15! Code below:
Modified (angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.1/prototypes/buildings/pressure-tanks.lua::line70)

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70 },
      gas_flow =
      {
        filename = "__base__/graphics/entity/pipe/steam.png",
        priority = "extra-high",
        line_length = 10,
        width = 24,
        height = 15,
        frame_count = 60,
        axially_symmetrical = false,
        direction_count = 1,
        animation_speed = 0.25,
        hr_version =
        {
          filename = "__base__/graphics/entity/pipe/hr-steam.png",
          priority = "extra-high",
          line_length = 10,
          width = 48,
          height = 30,
          frame_count = 60,
          axially_symmetrical = false,
          animation_speed = 0.25,
          direction_count = 1
        }
      }

Modified (angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.1/info.json::lines 3,4,10)

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3  "version": "0.1.2",
4  "factorio_version": "0.15",
10  "dependencies": ["base >= 0.15.0", "angelspetrochem >= 0.1.15"]

Modified zip file angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.1 -> angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.2
Modified folder angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.1 -> angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.2

[Diedel]

The acid for infinite ores is definetely intersting, but it looks like it breaks uranium, because uranium non-infinite now needs "Sulfurinc acid", the infinite one "Sulfuric Acid". For the regular infinite ores i need "Sulfuric acid" for Rubyte or "Sulfuric Acid" for Stiratite. I am not sure why it is different to begin with (the acid is the vanilla one, the Acid is the Petrochem one. For the non-uranium ores that is not a big problem, the conversion valve will fix it, but it looks like uranium is near impossible to get working, as i would need to place the drill in a way that they only hit either the infinites or only the regular ore.

[nagapito]

I managed to port JAX-35 Pressure tank to 0.15! Code below:
Modified (angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.1/prototypes/buildings/pressure-tanks.lua::line70)

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70 },
      gas_flow =
      {
        filename = "__base__/graphics/entity/pipe/steam.png",
        priority = "extra-high",
        line_length = 10,
        width = 24,
        height = 15,
        frame_count = 60,
        axially_symmetrical = false,
        direction_count = 1,
        animation_speed = 0.25,
        hr_version =
        {
          filename = "__base__/graphics/entity/pipe/hr-steam.png",
          priority = "extra-high",
          line_length = 10,
          width = 48,
          height = 30,
          frame_count = 60,
          axially_symmetrical = false,
          animation_speed = 0.25,
          direction_count = 1
        }
      }

Modified (angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.1/info.json::lines 3,4,10)

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3  "version": "0.1.2",
4  "factorio_version": "0.15",
10  "dependencies": ["base >= 0.15.0", "angelspetrochem >= 0.1.15"]

Modified zip file angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.1 -> angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.2
Modified folder angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.1 -> angelsaddons-pressuretanks_0.1.2

Well, if Angel needs/wants it, I have the other ones (logistics and components) also updated

[KudoBear]

It seems that if the liquid miner doesn't have the required fluid, it also refuses to mine the normal non-infinite ore and just gets stuck on the infinite. Any way you could make them ignore the infinite ores if it doesn't have the correct acid and still has normal ore left over?

[ukezi]

I have a question, why is petrochem dependent on refining? I think I would like to try pertrochem without the refining.

[Arch666Angel]

First draft:

[Zombiee]

Since you're playing with some balance things, is it intentional that no lead is consumed when smelting zinc ore directly to zinc ingots?

Zinc recipe: 60 molten lead -> 6 ingots
Melt ingot: 6 ingot => 60 molten lead

Nothing game breaking here, just odd that it's zero loss.

[qwerter96]

Hi Angel, Why did you pick those three ores for uranium crystallization? The current recipe would double up on demand for purified bobmonium and stiratite while leaving demand for purified saphirite and crotinum nil. Is there a reason for that?

[Mobius1]

First draft:

I think that, since we have uranium patches on the map, you should remove the uranium sorting recipe as it becomes irrelevant to process the other ores just to achieve the same thing as using some miners and sulfuric acid. Unless you planning on removing the uranium ore from spawning on the map.

Also refineries just take the crystals and purifies them without consuming anything like a catalyst or a fluid, seems like we could use something there.

[hoho]

Unless you planning on removing the uranium ore from spawning on the map.

I'd be rather surprised if it won't be removed in some later update to angel's mods. As it stands, together with infinite ores, there is just WAY too much uranium.

[Durabys]

First draft:

..or you could add Pitchblende ore patches. Just my 2 cents.

[kinnom]

First draft:

..or you could add Pitchblende ore patches. Just my 2 cents.

Pitchblende is the same as uranium ore. It wouldn't change a thing

[Kane]

Does anyone have a screenshot of what angels ores look like with bob/vanilla in 0.15?

[Mobius1]

Hey angel, since Factorio made steam a new fluid and since universal fluid barreling is a thing (even tho I noticed that they intentionally blocked barreling of steam) could you, like, enable the steam barreling?
its as easy as this:

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data.raw["fluid"]["steam"].auto_barrel = true

(I may or may not have made a mod myself just to enable that barreling feature)

Now that your Steam Crackers use steam and since all my chemical facilities uses barrels all the way on every step of the process, steam not being barreled would produce me a nightmare of piping.

[Kane]

Hey angel, since Factorio made steam a new fluid and since universal fluid barreling is a thing (even tho I noticed that they intentionally blocked barreling of steam) could you, like, enable the steam barreling?
its as easy as this:

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data.raw["fluid"]["steam"].auto_barrel = true

(I may or may not have made a mod myself just to enable that barreling feature)

Now that your Steam Crackers use steam and since all my chemical facilities uses barrels all the way on every step of the process, steam not being barreled would produce me a nightmare of piping.

How would you know the temperature?

[Mobius1]

How would you know the temperature?

The temperature of the fluid depends on the pipe, not on the fluid itself, the steam is just a fluid that triggers the heat on the pipe.