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avoiding loops between chests?
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:34 am
by kuchenmann
Is it possible to avoid loops between requester chests and provider/storage chests?
Sometimes it would be nice having items at a certain place (not waiting so long), so I would like to request it and put it into provider (or storage) chest nearby. But then looping starts, inserter puts it from requester into provider chest and robots put it back into requester-chest.
Thanks.
Re: avoiding loops between chests?
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:26 am
by impetus maximus
logistic buffer chest.
for now cleaver circuit magic i guess.
Re: avoiding loops between chests?
Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:40 pm
by BlakeMW
It's not really possible other than separating logistic zones.
But chests do have priority:
Active provider > Storage > Passive Provider
So you can for example place items into a Storage chest, then read the contents of that storage chest and send that value over the circuit network to the requester chests responsible for filling the passive providers, the circuit condition ensures they don't request more than is in the storage chest. Due to priority the bots will take the item from the storage chest and not the passive provider chests.
It's still kind of like herding cats though. Like you can't stop other (far away) requester chests from taking stuff from the storage chest, you can only try to minimize this by pulsing (i.e. really quickly shove 200 units into the storage chest and tell the refilling requesters to take it).
Re: avoiding loops between chests?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:31 pm
by reallyLost
The combinator "magic" isn't too complicated. Here is a blueprint string:
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Set your requests on the constant combinator. It's not perfect; it will usually collect about twice what you request before it stops depending on the responsiveness of your bots. If it collects too much you can of course just play with the request amounts.
Re: avoiding loops between chests?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:38 pm
by DaveMcW
reallyLost wrote:The combinator "magic" isn't too complicated. Here is a blueprint string:
That works great if you build it once. But if you have two copies requesting the same item, you get loops.
Re: avoiding loops between chests?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:16 pm
by reallyLost
DaveMcW wrote:reallyLost wrote:The combinator "magic" isn't too complicated. Here is a blueprint string:
That works great if you build it once. But if you have two copies requesting the same item, you get loops.
The looping should stabilize as the bots bring in new items from the rest of the network at the same time. Multiple copies seemed to work well enough in my testing with only brief looping. Perhaps It's possible that there is some scenario where it would loop forever but I don't think so.