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please help me fix my trains (no path)

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:52 pm
by Nemac
Hey ;)

i dont understand trains again :-(

I got this so far
http://83.169.12.172/Factorio/Train1.jpg
http://83.169.12.172/Factorio/Train2.jpg
http://83.169.12.172/Factorio/Train3.jpg

the train for iron was first i try to add the coaltrain. but my iron train dont get to its loadpoint anymore. but why?

if i manual drive it to this point
http://83.169.12.172/Factorio/Train_work.jpg it works and drive to the loadpoints, load and come back. this work for both trains..

it seems the coaltrain want drive backwards and dont want use the turn. but no matter which way it use, ist should be get to the stop signal on its right side..

what did i wrong?
thanks ;)

Re: please help me fix my trains (no path)

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:56 pm
by d3x0r
I'm bad at trains too :)
But; the light on the single line coming in indicates that track is north-east bound only; so the trains of course cannot go back out. It probably worked fine when you had one train and no lights?

mabye just adding another light on the other side of the track? (where it forks to become a loop you have a light on the right hand side but none on the left... at the other end you have two lights....

Re: please help me fix my trains (no path)

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:29 pm
by Nemac
jepp, single train without signals work fine. both iron and coal. fidn the way.

where exactly? Guess i remove all signals and try again -.-´

Re: please help me fix my trains (no path)

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:38 pm
by d3x0r
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Re: please help me fix my trains (no path)

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:30 pm
by Nemac
nope.. try rebuld but dont get it to work -.-´ guess i will just build long belts.. dont get the train stuff.

what about a KI-Learn tool? Game record how i drive manual and play it...

Re: please help me fix my trains (no path)

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:44 pm
by twepy
Automated trains arent very difficult but it can have steep learning curve when you start fiddling with signals.

Signals have two functions, the most obvious is keeping trains from colliding, the second function is setting the drive direction of the block. Trains will only pass signals that are placed at the right side of the track in line with the drive direction, trains doenst pass signals at the left side of the track unless at the right side also a signal is placed, like d3xor pointed out.
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For two way tracks its absolutely critical to have the signals exactly aligned, if they are even one position off then the game doesnt mark it as two way track. When are building two way tracks when you place down a signal you should place a signal at the white marker then its two way, if you cant place a signal there or you wont get a white marker move the first signal.
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If you still have issues, post your savegame, that makes it easier to help you troubleshoot the signaling issue.

Re: please help me fix my trains (no path)

Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:25 pm
by Nemac
For two way tracks its absolutely critical to have the signals exactly aligned,
Guess that was the fault :( seems to work now. Thank you ;)
Will watch the trains some runs if there any collision, but should be fine...