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i have a problem finding oil with 0.15.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:14 pm
by huhn
i created a word with low frequency resources but i can't find oil at all. maybe this is just bad luck and ofcause there is oil somewhere somehow but this was working relative good in 0.14. does someone else have a problem like this?

here is n example string: >>>AAAPAAEAAAADBAcAAAAEAAAAY29hbAEFBQoAAABjb3BwZXItb3Jl
AQUFCQAAAGNydWRlLW9pbAEFBQoAAABlbmVteS1iYXNlAwMFCAAAAGl
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NOqYCEHgCAhB4AAwABAQF7FK5H4XqUPwEAAAAAAAAuQAEAAAAAAADwP
wEAAAAAAFi7QAEAAAAAAOCFQAEAAAAAAFirQAEAAAAAAIjDQAEAAAAA
AECfQAEAAAAAAEB/QAEAAAAAAECPQAEzMzMzMzPzPwEzMzMzMzPzPwF
7FK5H4Xp0PwEAAQAAAAAAAAhAAQAAAAAAAAhAAXsUrkfheoQ/AQABAQ
GN7bWg98bQPgH8qfHSTWJgPwFpHVVNEHXvPgEBAQMAAAABBwAAAAECA
AAAAQIAAAABmpmZmZmZuT8BAAAAAAAAAEABAAAAAAAA4D8BmpmZmZmZ
2T8BzczMzMzM7D8BBQAAAAEUAAAAAUA4AAABwEsDAAEQDgAAAaCMAAA
BIBwAAAEAAAAAAAA+QAEAAAAAAAAUQAFmZmZmZmb2PwEzMzMzMzPjPw
EzMzMzMzPTPwEAAAAAAAAIQAEAAAAAAAAkQAE8AAAAAR4AAAAByAAAA
AEFAAAAAQAAAAAAAABAAQEBAAAAAAAAWUABBQAAAAEZAAAAAQAAAAAA
ACRAATIAAAABAAAAAAAAPkABZAAAAAGamZmZmZnJPwEzMzMzMzPDPwE
zMzMzMzPTPwEzMzMzMzPTPwEAAAAAAAAkQAEAAAAAAAA0QAEAAAAAAA
A+QAEAAAAAAAAUQAEAAAAAAAA+QAEAAAAAAAAkQAEAAAAAAAAIQAEKA
AAAAWQAAAABZAAAAAHoAwAAAQAAAAAAAOA/AdAHAAABAAAAAABAf0AD
AAAAAAAAAAAAAADwP42YsZk=<<<

Re: i have a problem finding oil with 0.15.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:50 pm
by Mr. Tact
Oil always has been a less frequent resource. I'd just try turning up oil in your setup. *shrug*

Re: i have a problem finding oil with 0.15.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 8:30 pm
by huhn
i can just create a new map but that's not what this topic is about.

i like to know if other people notice the same "problem" with more rare OIL in 0.15 than 0.14.

Re: i have a problem finding oil with 0.15.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:16 pm
by daniel34
I tried your example map string and I don't see the issue (starting area is the dot at the top center):
factorio-015-oil.png
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Re: i have a problem finding oil with 0.15.

Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 9:39 pm
by MeduSalem
Damn that's a lot of oil in the down left corner.

Re: i have a problem finding oil with 0.15.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:28 am
by huhn
daniel34 wrote:I tried your example map string and I don't see the issue (starting area is the dot at the top center):
so it is just me that has the feel it is more rare in the starting area.
or let me say it with other words. i usually don't need to search for the first oil batch even with settings like that.
so you have the feeling it is about the same as 0.14?

just to make that totally clear i'm not complaining here. i mean this is the Gameplay Help forum not the bug or balance forum.
Damn that's a lot of oil in the down left corner.
oil has to be somewhere and that batch is a good test for the fluid train.

Re: i have a problem finding oil with 0.15.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:19 am
by Lav
huhn wrote:so it is just me that has the feel it is more rare in the starting area.
or let me say it with other words. i usually don't need to search for the first oil batch even with settings like that.
so you have the feeling it is about the same as 0.14?
I regularly run the console cheat to reveal map around me at the start of the game (and I start new games frequently to test various minor stuff). So far I haven't noticed any differences in oil distribution between 0.14 and 0.15. Even on normal settings there's frequently no oil initially visible in both versions.