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Differences between smart inserter and filter inserter?

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:26 pm
by Adam0410
Hi,

I just updated from 0.12.35 to 0.13.1 and noticed that smart inserters have been removed and replaced with filter inserters. I can't find this change anywhere in the change logs. Is there any functional differences between the two? Can filter inserters still be connected to circuit and logistic networks?

Re: Differences between smart inserter and filter inserter?

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:29 pm
by Adam0410
Just answered my own question

In the changelog for 0.13.1 (viewtopic.php?f=3&t=27101) it says all types of inserters can be controlled by circuit and logistic networks so the filter inserter just contains the filtering mechanics of the smart inserter.

Re: Differences between smart inserter and filter inserter?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:18 am
by bigyihsuan
Pre-0.13, the Smart Inserter was the only inserter to have a filter and connectable to the circuit/robot network. It had the speed of a Fast Inserter.

0.13, the Filter Inserter is exactly the same thing, only this time every inserter has circuit and robot network access. And a snazzy purple color.

Re: Differences between smart inserter and filter inserter?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:15 pm
by Pavgran
Smart inserter without filters set should be replaced with fast inserter
Smart inserter with filters set should be replaced with filter inserter.
Ignoring reduced stack size
Filter inserter will not operate if no filter is set.
Smart inserter could operate without filter if it was controlled by network.

Re: Differences between smart inserter and filter inserter?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:28 am
by ssilk
Moved from General to Gameplay Help.

Re: Differences between smart inserter and filter inserter?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:09 pm
by piriform
When connected to a circuit network filter and smart inserters will behave differently.
Fast inserter will activate whenever the set condition is true, whereas filter inserter will activate when the condition is true AND the filter is set.
I'm still shaking my head over this "feature" as it managed to break my factory .
I think that a better way implementing a filter would have been to activate the inserter on the signal type = true ( i.e. steel >0, pickup steel etc).

Re: Differences between smart inserter and filter inserter?

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:07 pm
by The Eriksonn
I think that it is funny how the burner inserter can be connected to the circuit network, because it is not electric.

Re: Differences between smart inserter and filter inserter?

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:17 pm
by Kelderek
The Eriksonn wrote:I think that it is funny how the burner inserter can be connected to the circuit network, because it is not electric.
Why? Just because you have access to electricity does not necessarily mean you are completely done using coal. You could use this feature to enable or disable steam power engines by using the circuit network to activate burner inserters that feed the boilers.

Re: Differences between smart inserter and filter inserter?

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:30 pm
by The Eriksonn
Just thought it was funny since it feels like the circuit box on the inserter has some computerchips and that they need electricity.