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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Post by Trebor » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:41 pm

If a train has a choice between two routes of the same length and one has a waystation, will the to route with the waystation get the pathfinding penalty?

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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Post by mmmPI » Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:53 pm

Trebor wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:41 pm
If a train has a choice between two routes of the same length and one has a waystation, will the to route with the waystation get the pathfinding penalty?
Yes, When the path includes a train stop that is not the destination -> Add a penalty of 2000. from https://wiki.factorio.com/Railway/Train_path_finding there are more calculations when there is a train waiting at this waystation.

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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Post by Trebor » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:36 pm

mmmPI wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:53 pm
when there is a train waiting at this waystation.
I was under the impression trains wouldn’t stop at waystations.

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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Post by mmmPI » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:44 pm

Trebor wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:36 pm
mmmPI wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 8:53 pm
when there is a train waiting at this waystation.
I was under the impression trains wouldn’t stop at waystations.
That's the expected behavior, sometimes things doesn't go as expected :)
In this case, the waypoint station add more than 2000 rail penalty depending on what is messed up.

Was your question about 2 routes that would be the same lengh, after the penalty is applied ?

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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Post by quyxkh » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:16 pm

Trebor wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:36 pm
I was under the impression trains wouldn’t stop at waystations.
Being a waystation is a schedule entry thing, not a train-stop thing. Nothing prevents you having one train stopping at and another train easing on through any station.

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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Post by Trebor » Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:25 am

Thanks everyone! This answers my questions.

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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Post by Ringkeeper » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:49 pm

was there a change in 0.17 compared to 0.16 for curved rails (how wide they are) ?

Blueprints that worked in 0.16 don't work in 0.17 anymore as the curve uses 1 tile extra (yes, i just started with 0.17, search didn't gave answer).

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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Post by DaveMcW » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:57 pm

Yes, curved rails are wider in 0.17.

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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Post by Ringkeeper » Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:04 pm

DaveMcW wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:57 pm
Yes, curved rails are wider in 0.17.
so intended? Shame, have to change all the blueprints. Ah well, let's get started :D

Thanks for the fast answer.

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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Post by slippycheeze » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:37 pm

Ringkeeper wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:04 pm
DaveMcW wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:57 pm
Yes, curved rails are wider in 0.17.
so intended?
So, something that you will have to adapt to, and a result of deliberate choices. Not intended in the sense that specifically breaking those blueprints was the goal.

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