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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:50 am
by Pi-C
ssilk wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:30 am
Is there a simple way to find out, which other recipes do use the same ingredients?
Perhaps What is it really used for? may help you? You can search for an item/fluid and it will show you all recipes of which it is a product, and all recipes where it is used as an ingredient. However, it doesn't allow searching for several things at the same time.

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:25 pm
by Zathuras
Hi All!

Hope this qualifies as short:
Are there options or maybe debug commands to turn parts of the game off, like deactivating all logistic systems, or halting all belts? Or even, pause the entire game, while still being able to place stuff?
I ask because my megabase is struggling to stay at 60fps, and anytime I want to place a large blueprint the game almost grinds to a halt.

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:35 pm
by DaveMcW
Zathuras wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:25 pm
pause the entire game, while still being able to place stuff?

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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2021 10:47 pm
by Zathuras
Facebalm. Apply generously. thanks^^



Might someone know how to tell a train he should not change paths whilst in a roundabout (cause he will be crashing into his own rear end)?

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:25 am
by astroshak
Make sure the roundabout is larger than the train is long. Or, avoid using roundabouts. Your choice.

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 12:43 am
by Zathuras
But they are so nice!
Trains are 4/12, that would make them humongous. And A four -lane intersection isnt much better :-(
atm I have cut them in one place, so they do not go all the way around.
Maybe I can do some logic stuff wich does the same, so a train can only leave the way it came at most.

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:16 pm
by astroshak
That’s an idea. Put a watcher signal in place and as soon as it goes red from a train entering the roundabout, have the signal conne to g/separating that side’s I let and outlet gets turned red too? Not sure if that would impact normal operation of the signal though. Might need a separate specially placed signal in addition to the regular one?

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:30 am
by Zathuras
Ok, I tried a simple Rail signal in a position where it should have broken the cycle.
Trains apparently ignore Red lights if they are causeing these red lights themselves.
Therefore, a broken circle seems the only option.
This is bugging me greatly.

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:57 pm
by Beamup
I think that's why astroshak's first answer is the standard - make them large enough that this question does not arise.

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:43 am
by mmmPI
Zathuras wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 1:30 am
Trains apparently ignore Red lights if they are causeing these red lights themselves.

Yes,
I think i read (in an FFF?) that it was made this way to answer cases such as those :
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The game will draw the signal red, because there is a train present in the curvy block. But the train would still cross it.




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The red signal on the right side shows that the long block of rail is "reserved" for the train.
The train never leaves the long block of rail : the loco goes past the right signal before the end of the last wagon has passed the blinking signal.

In both case trains are allowed to "re-enter" blocks that they occupy themselves and it's desired. In case of round-about it has some undesired effects :)

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:02 pm
by brunzenstein
I'm unable to find out why the setting of the inserter set to stop at 40 uranium doesn't work -
I have set the blue inserter to take out one uranium to the belt by setting to =1 and the other stack inserter to >1 and also tried >40 - still the second inserter puts 41 in the machine - pls help

Blueprint string:
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Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:26 pm
by Loewchen
brunzenstein wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:02 pm
I'm unable to find out why the setting of the inserter set to stop at 40 uranium doesn't work -
You output 3 items 13 times an 2 items once, so the blue inserters condition never triggers. Use a stack inserter with the same stack size as the circuit connected one as output.


Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:48 pm
by brunzenstein
Loewchen wrote:
Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:26 pm
You output 3 items 13 times an 2 items once, so the blue inserters condition never triggers. Use a stack inserter with the same stack size as the circuit connected one as output.
Thank you Löwchen - your where most helpful as always :-)

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:40 am
by napouser
Hi
First post here
For a while (1600 hours) i ve been building stuff that takes a long time especially pavement
Last time it took 3 weeks to finish the whole thing
Its kinda difficult to guess when its done and typically u just try to estimate by seeing the map

Is there a f4 command that shows the remaining assigments left counter like a number 488755 for example that keeps going down?

Is there a scripting language lua command that can show this?

Is it possible to make a mod that shows that counter?

Its kinda difficylt to be in the blind for weeks some times

Sorry if its in the wrong forum there are roo many here

Thanks

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:45 pm
by SoShootMe
napouser wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:40 am
For a while (1600 hours) i ve been building stuff that takes a long time especially pavement
...
Is there a f4 command that shows the remaining assigments left counter like a number 488755 for example that keeps going down?
...
Is it possible to make a mod that shows that counter?
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/GhostScanner sounds like what you are looking for. Note that some performance hit is unavoidable; I haven't used it so I don't know if it is likely to be an issue, but the mod allows you to control update frequency, trading accuracy for performance.

(But if it is taking too long for construction robots to place eg tiles, the problem is that your production and/or robot infrastructure are insufficient. The factory must grow.)

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:02 am
by napouser
SoShootMe wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 3:45 pm
napouser wrote:
Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:40 am
For a while (1600 hours) i ve been building stuff that takes a long time especially pavement
...
Is there a f4 command that shows the remaining assigments left counter like a number 488755 for example that keeps going down?
...
Is it possible to make a mod that shows that counter?
https://mods.factorio.com/mod/GhostScanner sounds like what you are looking for. Note that some performance hit is unavoidable; I haven't used it so I don't know if it is likely to be an issue, but the mod allows you to control update frequency, trading accuracy for performance.

(But if it is taking too long for construction robots to place eg tiles, the problem is that your production and/or robot infrastructure are insufficient. The factory must grow.)

Hmm yea actually while i was posting my question i thought about ghosts so i just made a destruction planner with ghosts items on ground etc etc and just used that to see how many entities it gets. Obviusly the fps goes down to 1 but it gives u a rough idea. Then i had the wonderfull idea to make a planner to destroy all rocks and collect stone and coal wich took about 10 hours. So i thank u for the suggestion but i think i ll try it with a simple planner so i can keep my map unmodded
Thanks again

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 8:29 am
by Impatient
BicycleEater wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:22 pm
To Impatient:
Maybe try turning off overlays and see if that helps.
Thanks for sharing your ideas on that. Turning off all overlays in map mode didn't change anything.

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:33 pm
by brunzenstein
Im looking for a ultra compact red inserter production setup - any idea?

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:37 pm
by mmmPI
brunzenstein wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:33 pm
Im looking for a ultra compact red inserter production setup - any idea?
how many per min or second ?
what size is compact ? ( in relation with previous question)
does it require intermediate steps too ?

I would tend to think bot based assembly surrounded by beacons would be the most compact/volume you can get.

Re: Simple Questions and Short Answers

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:08 pm
by brunzenstein
mmmPI wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:37 pm
brunzenstein wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:33 pm
Im looking for a ultra compact red inserter production setup - any idea?
how many per min or second ?
what size is compact ? ( in relation with previous question)
does it require intermediate steps too ?

I would tend to think bot based assembly surrounded by beacons would be the most compact/volume you can get.
Compact is compact thought - nano :-)
No need for exact balancing. No bots
Including immediate steps - I think a line of copper & iron and a clever solution with undergrounds.
Similar to that one: https://youtu.be/sbm7lP9DzNI